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stockholmer

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Fri Feb 24, 2012, 12:34 PM Feb 2012

Freedom From Religion : A Fearless Young Woman Takes a Stand [View all]

http://www.counterpunch.org/2012/02/24/freedom-from-religion/

If a person is going to act fearlessly, then it’s best done when young. At least that’s how it worked out for me. Jessica Ahlquist is such a fearless person. Jessica took on the established and entrenched points of view of a large suburban community in Cranston, Rhode Island, and won. She had the help of the American Civil Liberties Union, family, and supporters throughout the country, but her battle was an individual one that resonates very clearly in this election year when some in power wish to destroy the First Amendment’s guarantee of separation between church and state.

The New York Times (“A Brave Stand in Rhode Island,” January 31, 2012) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/01/opinion/a-brave-stand-in-rhode-island.html championed Jessica’s cause in an editorial and covered her case in a news article (“Student Faces Town’s Wrath in Protest Against Prayer,” The New York Times, January 26, 2012) http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/27/us/rhode-island-city-enraged-over-school-prayer-lawsuit.html . Jessica is a self-proclaimed atheist. She took her high school to task for its display of a student’s prayer that has hung on the wall of Cranston High School West’s auditorium since 1963. I taught briefly at Cranston West during the late 1970s, but I can’t remember the prayer in the school auditorium.

Jessica came to atheism after her mother fell ill when Jessica was in elementary school. And that was what she identifies as being the break she had with religion. Jessica’s case is all the more interesting because Rhode Island is the most Catholic state in the nation. She was labelled “an evil little thing,” by a Rhode Island state representative as her case moved to federal district court in Providence. Several florists in the area refused to send flowers that had been sent to Jessica from supporters around the nation. Local police had to provide escorts for her as the case heated the raw emotions that religious issues often tend to do. A 2009 graduate of the same school called Jessica “an idiot” in The Times news article.

In a wise decision, the Cranston School Committee voted not to appeal the federal district court ruling that supported Jessica’s attempt to have the prayer removed from her school. However, a stunned ACLU-Rhode Island representative, Steven Brown, commented on the apparent delay in removing the prayer banner from the school’s auditorium in response to the mayor of the city’s position that legal fees accrued in the case must be settled before the banner is removed. Brown questioned: “…whether this is an attempt by some petty officials to dredge up a new excuse to avoid complying with the Court’s decision” (“ACLU wants prayer banner removed ASAP,” WPRI.com, February 22, 2012). http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_news/west_bay/cranston-aclu-wants-prayer-banner-removedasap

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Jessica Ahlquist, a Rhode Island atheist, won a suit against her school's prayer poster
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As an atheist myself, I would have ignored the poster and... Speck Tater Feb 2012 #1
Um, it's a public school. She's right. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #7
The establishment clause...AND the Free Exercise clause are equal. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #11
Wow do you have that backwards jeff47 Feb 2012 #12
Hmm, a dead horse argument, and you think a prayer on a wall is discrimination. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #16
These "special little rules and laws' are called THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #23
It's discrimination when the Christian prayer is the only one on the wall jeff47 Feb 2012 #34
That sign was state sponsorship of religion. Pure and simple. PassingFair Feb 2012 #41
Bullshit. The SCOTUS has repeatedly affirmed that endorsements of faith BY public schools are a Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #14
Nice cursing, Warren, If one is forced to "Keep it" in church, then that is NOT "free exercise". Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #17
So, are the courts wrong when they order prayer banners removed etc? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #18
Are you saying the courts are never wrong? Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #26
No, I'm asking a question. Are you going to answer it? 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #31
...What comes around? I won't be able to put up a poster that says "God is pretend" in your church? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #21
Oh, the straw man attack, I've seen this one before. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #27
If you've seen it before, you should be able to come up with a much better response than that. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2012 #36
You're absolutely right one one thing- That wasn't a real apology. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #39
Problem with "belief" is it's used to deny Reality fascisthunter Feb 2012 #55
Hey.. do you like counting? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #22
It's a protest on a different subject, try reading the signs next time. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #28
I was there, Jacko. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #38
Do they really use that term? obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #47
Transparency Page. Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #64
Fuck. Did you cuss out an ass who calls pro-choicers Tsiyu Feb 2012 #52
Short answer? Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #63
Public schools should crunch60 Feb 2012 #24
That is a false assumption. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #30
I notice that you are of the same faith in the mural Marrah_G Feb 2012 #33
Really? Surprising since I consider myself non-denominational Christian. Kurmudgeon Mar 2012 #76
So would it be ok for an crunch60 Mar 2012 #74
People who comment about "cursing" on DU Boudica the Lyoness Feb 2012 #29
I have no intention of killing anyone or making threats, so don't worry. Kurmudgeon Feb 2012 #32
Take a look at the transparency page of the person you're responding to Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #40
When debating someone I never feel the need to assert that they have sex with their mother. Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #43
Intellectually Lazy Retort ProfessorGAC Feb 2012 #50
One is not forced in keeping it in church. LiberalFighter Feb 2012 #59
I am proud to be 'ignored' by you, as you clearly (if your 'societal norms' analogy is accepted) stockholmer Feb 2012 #8
I do the same as well with a lot of things. BUT in this case the girl is right. A public school Justice wanted Feb 2012 #9
Yeah, and what's up with those upity gay people wanting to get married! jeff47 Feb 2012 #13
Wow do you have that backwards! Speck Tater Feb 2012 #19
So how, exactly would she turn her school to a different radio station? jeff47 Feb 2012 #35
Imagine this Speck Tater Feb 2012 #51
It was offensive to her, this is her life, not yours or mine. Tsiyu Feb 2012 #53
I say "live and let live" and you accuse me of wanting to let her die? Speck Tater Feb 2012 #60
I'm very calm Tsiyu Feb 2012 #61
We all have that one thing in common... Speck Tater Feb 2012 #65
No time for the cute here Tsiyu Feb 2012 #66
This is no game, sir. Speck Tater Feb 2012 #67
My, my Tsiyu Feb 2012 #68
WTF??? Ok. I've wasted enough time with you on this. Bye now. nt Speck Tater Feb 2012 #73
I am very Proud of Jessica chemp Feb 2012 #2
bookmarking for later BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #4
thank you so much for posting this stockholmer Feb 2012 #10
My favorite line: "They're using the Constitution to turn this into a secular country." chaplainM Feb 2012 #15
As a Christian I solute her. She is right. My faith is a personal matter and I never try to foist it jwirr Feb 2012 #3
She's fighting not JUST for atheists. BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2012 #5
Call the Westboro Church JohnnyRingo Feb 2012 #6
This young woman, quite simply, rocks. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #20
She's awesome! Good job for sticking up for your beliefs. neverforget Feb 2012 #25
"Sticking up for your beliefs:" the sliding Republican rating scale DFW Feb 2012 #37
This is what offended Ms Ahlquist, after being displayed in the school for 50 years: Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #42
A court decided it was an endorsement of religion. That should "offend" anyone with a respect for Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #45
If Congress ever makes a law respecting the establishment of religion, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #46
Not every day you see a pre-1860s mindset... Humanist_Activist Feb 2012 #49
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Feb 2012 #62
"Heavenly father" and "Amen" make it pretty clearly Christian Marrah_G Feb 2012 #69
Ever been to a synagogue? (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #71
Nope, but have spent alot of time in Cranston! Marrah_G Feb 2012 #72
I have a problem with these cases, because it just gives fuel to the right. JNathanK Feb 2012 #44
Imagine an atheist taking offence to Christmas Day being a national holiday, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #48
"Help us to be good sports and smile when we lose as well as when we win." lol Tsiyu Feb 2012 #54
But Zee Reich Wing Must Have Zeer Way fascisthunter Feb 2012 #56
For the rest of her life, anyone who Googles her name, like potential employers, Nye Bevan Feb 2012 #57
My guess is, she will go on to do great and noble things Tsiyu Feb 2012 #58
I want schools to be Godless Marrah_G Feb 2012 #70
I just want schools to not be biased toward any religion or lack of religion. JNathanK Mar 2012 #75
Those who "opt out" are then outsiders Marrah_G Mar 2012 #77
I used to opt out from the pledge of allegiance and the school prayers JNathanK Mar 2012 #78
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