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Fire Walk With Me

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Thu Aug 15, 2013, 12:17 PM Aug 2013

After more than a year of domestic terrorism against Occupy, Obama continues to acidically mock us [View all]

Last edited Fri Aug 16, 2013, 05:59 PM - Edit history (1)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/15/us-egypt-obama-statement-idUSBRE97E0QP20130815

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/transcript-president-obamas-remarks-on-egypt/2013/08/15/5f69252a-05b7-11e3-a07f-49ddc7417125_story.html


"We deplore violence against civilians. We support universal rights essential to human dignity, including the right to peaceful protest."

"Just over two years ago America was inspired by Egyptians'... desire for change," Obama continued. "We said at the time the change would not come quickly or easily, but we did align ourselves with a set of principles. Non-violence, a respect for universal rights, and a process for political and economic reform."


ORLY?


Images and video of police brutality against peaceful protesters at the DEMOCRATIC National Convention (dial-up warning, graphic image warning) :

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002710303

And that's just the one event over a period of a week or so? Much less the year+ with 7700 Occupiers arrested and two peaceful Veterans very nearly killed in Oakland by a DEMOCRATIC mayor?


Domestic terrorism: The use and threat of force (which includes arrests into the prison-industrial complex and courts system) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population for political or social purposes.

Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States or Puerto Rico without foreign direction committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.

http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005

Section 802 of the USA PATRIOT Act (Pub. L. No. 107-52) expanded the definition of terrorism to cover ""domestic,"" as opposed to international, terrorism. A person engages in domestic terrorism if they do an act ""dangerous to human life"" that is a violation of the criminal laws of a state or the United States, if the act appears to be intended to: (i) intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination or kidnapping. Additionally, the acts have to occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States and if they do not, may be regarded as international terrorism.

http://www.aclu.org/national-security/how-usa-patriot-act-redefines-domestic-terrorism

We revealed the true power in the country which is the Plutonomy/Plutocracy/Corporatocracy. And that the government is devoted to protecting it at the expense of US citizens. That the US government does not represent the citizens of this country.

Some 7700 of us were arrested. The DHS and FBI spied upon us from day one and shared the information across agencies (such sharing is specifically redacted in FOIA documents) =as well as with the very corporations and institutions we protested=. How many banksters are in jail? How much Wall Street reform has occurred? Not holding my damn breath.

SERIOUSLY: If W Bush had arrested 7700+ peaceful, righteous protesters, wouldn't you ALL be enraged? But when a democrat does it, it's okay, despite the absolute righteousness of the cause? Obama let Bush and his war criminal friends WALK but when we point out lies and corruption and a better way of living, we get attacked?




For further reading:

Oakland officials caught in lies about attacking Occupy (Dial-up warning; graphic images and video)
occupyobservations.blogspot.com/2012/01/oakland-officials-caught-in-lies-about.html

What remains unchanged or has worsened under Obama?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023389720


Dell Cameron ‏@dellcam

BREAKING: Obama condemns violence... except in #Pakistan, #Yemen, #Sudan, #Iraq, #Afghanistan, #Palestine, #Bahrain, #Libya, #Chicago...
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Are you comparing 525 dead in Egypt with Occupy? msanthrope Aug 2013 #1
We needed to relearn these old wise sayings: KoKo Aug 2013 #2
Truth. And sarcasm/mockery is the language of sadists. We hated it when W did it to us... n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #5
Occu-what? Redneck_Dem Aug 2013 #3
Often takes the application of mental energy to know what's going on in the world around us. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #6
Welcome to DU! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #7
Kinda false equivalency, there... MineralMan Aug 2013 #4
Why don't you agree? KarKar Aug 2013 #59
In time, I am sure you will MineralMan Aug 2013 #60
It's okay when Egypt's generals murder hundreds, but not when American cops beat somebody? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #8
I never knew just how many Occupiers were arrested. over 7700? That is outrageous. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #9
7,762 according to this site Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #11
Tell me...how many of these people were arrested? brooklynite Aug 2013 #24
Your reply indicates a discomfort with Civil Disobedience and perhaps a need to better understand Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #31
You're welcome to believe in, and engage in civil disobedience... brooklynite Aug 2013 #35
There most definitely is a "them" about whom Occupy has been speaking. Examples: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #39
k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #10
Now the President is a Domestic Terrorist. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #12
According to the real, actual, factual FBI and "patriot act" definitions of domestic terrorism, YES. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #14
I guess we should impeach him. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #15
You believe the corrupt systems can provide justice? Look at Wall Street and banks such as HSBC, Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #19
I did consider the issues you presented. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #26
Again, check the factual, US government-issued definition of domestic terrorist Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #34
You clearly missed the joke about blue links. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #37
Gentle jokes in the midst of obduracy may be overlooked or misunderstood. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #40
How many OWS people were arrested by the federal government vs those who were killed by Egypt's geek tragedy Aug 2013 #56
No, Obama is a 'terrrorist' according to deranged, insane psychopaths who have no ability to grasp geek tragedy Aug 2013 #54
I've seen him called that before on DU. great white snark Aug 2013 #16
Read the definition(s) of domestic terrorism and explain to me how they do not apply Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #20
Such simple minded bullshit. phleshdef Aug 2013 #29
Great Post. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #36
you win the thread. nt dionysus Aug 2013 #47
Your reality, facts, and logica are terrorism against the paranoid fantasies geek tragedy Aug 2013 #55
+1000 n/t FSogol Aug 2013 #58
Amazing isn't it. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #21
Weird how the arrests of more than 7,762 peaceful activists under a "democratic" president fails Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #23
people only care what happens to people they agree with. Sad fact of humanity. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #25
i would alter that statment to start with 'some' laundry_queen Aug 2013 #27
Why do you think I disagree with the Occupy folks? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #28
So if I don't agree that the arrest of these folks is the same as JoePhilly Aug 2013 #30
Posting this here as well: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #41
Fire Walk of the 7762 Generic Other Aug 2013 #48
Many got probation after months of worrisome court dates and extremely aggressive prosecutors. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #49
I didn't realize so many cases had such negative outcomes Generic Other Aug 2013 #50
I'm glad your local group had a positive experience. Small towns can be like that Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Generic Other Aug 2013 #51
I'm not sure if Domestic Terrorist is an upgrade or not. What do you think? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #22
I think suggesting that the Presdient is a Domestic Terrorist, JoePhilly Aug 2013 #32
One opinion. You don't speak for the entirity of occupy so why use the word "us?" great white snark Aug 2013 #13
No, I do not speak for the entire movement. However, I am observing and reporting upon what occurred Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #18
If Obama is to blame, you should be demanding his impeachment. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #33
A large enough group of those pissed, IS a plan. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #42
"Obama is to blame" said someone who has no idea of how our government actually works. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #57
uh huh. zappaman Aug 2013 #17
. dionysus Aug 2013 #38
mphmphph. titter. giggle. DevonRex Aug 2013 #45
Oh my God! Number23 Aug 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #43
So you think Obama is a domestic terrorist? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #44
Yes, she does think President Obama is a terrorist. DevonRex Aug 2013 #46
Obama didn't arrest Occupy Demonstrators. Simple fact whereas your post is a paranoid fantasy, nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #53
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