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R. Daneel Olivaw

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59. And yet he still did it. Still spoke up about it. Joined other abolitionists.

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 01:12 PM

Aug 2013

Which, again is still pretty damn Liberal for the time. He at least changed for the better (which is a progressive trait), and I guess that has some people's undergarments in a twist since his true character, and words, speaks for itself.

It must be difficult for some to try and assassinate the character of an imperfect Liberal from the 1700s in order to support the actions of a police state in the present. They have paid very dear for their dog whistle.

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The Black Helicopter Left and Its Disconnect from the Constitution [View all] michigandem58 Aug 2013 OP

Ah so now we are racist randroid obama hating Black Helicopter Leftists. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #1

Perfect! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #37

It has become increasingly comical how far the Regan Democrats will go R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #38

It's really just the corporatists against everyone else Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #56

82% of REAL Liberal Democrats approve of President Obama's job as president; therefore Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #69

Is that the poll from Get-it-wrong-Gallup? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #73

ok. let's bias it downward and say only 72% of liberal Democrats agree. Even accounting for error Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #80

Why not just show me where you got the poll numbers? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #82

Here ya go! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #102

You're kidding. Right? Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #107

Like I mentioned upthread. "Get-it-wrong-Gallup." R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #110

And the Washington Post? Are they in collusion with Gallup? Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #132

Read the poll data. Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #135

80% is 80% no matter how you slice & dice. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #136

Only if you don't have any math skills. Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #140

Okay. Let's just make up some numbers and then move them around. Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #106

Bazinga! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #115

Of course. Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #124

yes, but we are "professional" G_j Aug 2013 #96

A quick glance over that site's front page makes it clear who is the agenda-driven nut. /nt Marr Aug 2013 #2

"not through handicapping law enforcement" - "a policeman's job is only easy in a police state." n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #3

Exactly what I have been thinking as I read these threads Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #4

That explains a lot! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #14

Haha, asshole blogging from mom's basement represents "the people's view" whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #5

Why link to a hypocritical piece-of-shit MIC supporting website? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #6

FAILPOST. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #7

Do note that the OP has cut and run, not even sticking around to HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #8

Not the first time either. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #11

Alas, Chickenhawkery is a republican tradition Berlum Aug 2013 #31

So, if all of what Snowden revealed is "..legal, Constitutional,.." etc, why is he being pursued? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #9

Sad, isn't it? I voted for this "regime", and all I got R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #45

propaganda grasswire Aug 2013 #10

Jury Results arely staircase Aug 2013 #12

What the hell is up with juror number 5 again? Aerows Aug 2013 #18

I noticed that. nt arely staircase Aug 2013 #19

Strange n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #21

There's a glitch where you can accidentally vote the other way. Dash87 Aug 2013 #24

You have to click on it twice though Aerows Aug 2013 #25

When it happened to me, it said "Leave it"on both steps, Dash87 Aug 2013 #30

That happened to me too a couple weeks ago BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #50

That ought to tell you something michigandem58 Aug 2013 #22

Not really. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #94

It's funny ronnie624 Aug 2013 #130

Is this your uncle's blog or something? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #13

Falcon Air!!!!!! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #17

FalconAir...a blast from the past (approximately 19 Friedman Units ago) DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #109

Name-calling drivel. djean111 Aug 2013 #15

If I see any Black Helicopter Lefties, I'll make sure to let them know. nt Xipe Totec Aug 2013 #16

If only those "conspiracy theories" were not constantly being confirmed. Pholus Aug 2013 #20

Pragmatic progressives have been right on Manning and Snowden n/t michigandem58 Aug 2013 #23

"Pragmatic" is a good term for you to hang on yourself, given its archaic definition... nt Pholus Aug 2013 #27

Pragmatic Progressives Is An Oxymoron HangOnKids Aug 2013 #28

It's the "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" NuclearDem Aug 2013 #57

Got It HangOnKids Aug 2013 #60

You know, I've only ever seen the "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" argument winter is coming Aug 2013 #89

Pragmatic progressives? Is that anything like Reagan Democrats? R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #61

Instead of "pragmatic", just substitute "sensible". robertpaulsen Aug 2013 #83

That is an extremist website, filled with posters who have been banned from other legitimate sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #26

I found that link odd as well n/t HangOnKids Aug 2013 #29

Like I said, the OP would feel right at home on Free Republic. Rex Aug 2013 #35

I Don't See A Difference HangOnKids Aug 2013 #40

Good point. Rex Aug 2013 #41

"Join the real conversation about liberty and security..." R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #32

Who owned slaves, by the way. randome Aug 2013 #39

Which changes nothing from the original statement, unless R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #43

I would think that statement would have had more significance to Franklin's slaves. randome Aug 2013 #44

He freed his slaves and became an abolitionist. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #46

He did that toward the end of his life. randome Aug 2013 #47

And yet he still did it. Still spoke up about it. Joined other abolitionists. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #59

Wasting your time, history doesn't matter to some here. Rex Aug 2013 #51

This really is a hoot. You're right. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #55

LOL! Rex Aug 2013 #65

Are you opposed to Constiutional Rights for the American people?? That appears to be what sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #72

Which has nothing to do with the centuries old laws and social philosophy which is what sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #70

Some history on that quote for those who are interested LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #141

I love verbage that comes from blog posts. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #143

The government has a "legitimate power" to spy on its citizens? NoOneMan Aug 2013 #33

Another crap piece to bash the Left. Rex Aug 2013 #34

And the party faithful come out to cheer it on as gosple. R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #48

YEP. Rex Aug 2013 #49

Troll post? Bradical79 Aug 2013 #36

Like the time George W Bush let New Orleans drown? Octafish Aug 2013 #42

Shit Howdy The Prez Was Strumming While Folks Was Dying HangOnKids Aug 2013 #62

Veddy. Veddy. Octafish Aug 2013 #79

The BHL!! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #52

Same guy, 2011: "Joining the ideologue spheres' pure, fanatic, indomitable hysteria, Krugman... " JHB Aug 2013 #53

Spandan C: "Good riddance, Barack Obama." WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #112

Yeah Michigandem58, damn those "pesky liberals", the third way is the best way! AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #54

The one-man blog just drifts more and more rightward. And it's the U.S. Government's disconnect villager Aug 2013 #58

+ 1 Brazilian R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #63

Not Going The Way You Wanted? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #64

Manning has apologized and is pleading with the court michigandem58 Aug 2013 #66

Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah HangOnKids Aug 2013 #67

You should go look at the shithole blog he sourced from. Rex Aug 2013 #71

I Looked That Is Why I Want His Explanation HangOnKids Aug 2013 #76

The creator of the site and many of its members gained the reputation of 'troll' over their years sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #78

I thought that particular stench smelt familiar. Rex Aug 2013 #81

It's in alignment with the 80% of liberal Democrats who support President Obama michigandem58 Aug 2013 #85

Not at all, nice try. Rex Aug 2013 #86

I thought it was 82% R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #88

How much of that number is "rally 'round our team" effect, anyway? JHB Aug 2013 #90

I've seen this poll number nonesense used by the diehards to blindly justify anything that R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #91

Your extrapolating skills need some polishing. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #95

And that has what to do with whether he did the right thing? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #116

"the government's legal, legitimate power to conduct surveillance" <-- NOT! ~eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #68

The writer of this article is blind to how things really work in 21st Century America PorridgeGun Aug 2013 #74

doubleplusone!!! Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #84

Spandan LOL n/t KG Aug 2013 #75

I still lurve you HangOnKids Aug 2013 #77

Is that like Spandex? Rex Aug 2013 #87

If "Black helicopter left" is acceptable, JoeyT Aug 2013 #92

Mm mmm. Blogspam attacks by proxy. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #93

HAHAHA! "Black Helicopter Left" akin to "Far Left" cuz there just isnt enough "OOMPH!" in "Far Left" burnodo Aug 2013 #97

Appropriate, actually michigandem58 Aug 2013 #98

Yes, I'm sure you think so burnodo Aug 2013 #99

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Aug 2013 #103

Black Helicopters are a bit old hat. That's an Alex Jones meme from the 90s CJCRANE Aug 2013 #100

Typical "we have our crazies but the other side does it, too" louis-t Aug 2013 #101

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #104

Oh no kidding. Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #105

why did you delete your previous post? burnodo Aug 2013 #108

LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #111

Hey When I Delete A Post I Realize It Is Because I Said Something Shitty HangOnKids Aug 2013 #114

Why are you hounding everyone in this thread? Number23 Aug 2013 #119

Who are you? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #127

Who are you? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #128

The other poster above noted that you're hounding other folks in this thread Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #129

Have A Great Day! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #131

Now, that's an interesting question... SidDithers Aug 2013 #145

Thepeoplesview website, and it's disconnect from reality AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #113

That is a weird site. Like a museum of oxymorons. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #117

Yeah it is AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #118

"handicapping law enforcement"? You mean, like not letting the DEA lie in court about NSA evidence? Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #120

You're posting a by piece somone who didn't even vote for Obama in the first place? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #121

Reccing one's own post is nice... Octafish Aug 2013 #125

O noes! Did he get caught up in his own petard? Rex Aug 2013 #137

chop chop chop chop B Calm Aug 2013 #122

The fact that this thread is not locked is very revealing to me. mick063 Aug 2013 #123

'Black Helicopter Left' bowens43 Aug 2013 #126

Check out the article michigandem58 Aug 2013 #134

What's HAPPENING is that we are being lied to. And spied on. And lied to again. Bake Aug 2013 #133

What a bunch of insulting, namecalling, tripe. Quantess Aug 2013 #138

Legal, Constitutional, and Congress and court-supervised, no abuse, illegality, negligence or fraud? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #139

The author of this article could care less about have a frank conversation LostOne4Ever Aug 2013 #142

DU rec... SidDithers Aug 2013 #144