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FBaggins

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54. Even more hilarious... keep 'em coming.
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 01:58 PM
Aug 2013
Again.... no pics showing the pool #4 in depth, showing the conditions of the rods therein.

The rods are in bundles that are themselves enclosed within racks. If you could see the fuel rods, that would be evidence that something had happened. The fact that they're sitting right where they started proves that they didn't melt down (which wouldn't have been physically possible knowing what we know now - that the pool is intact).

Looking at the webcams one can see the heat signatures of the reactors/pools rising in the air. Given the right humidity and temperatures a nice radioactive fog forms.

Humidity and temperature produce radiation now? What you mean is that you imagine that it's radioactive... but we've already seen how far afield your imagination takes you sometimes... haven't we? Hey! Here's comes one now!

And there is the idea that the melted cores having burned down into the ground are acting like geysers which burp on occasion as geysers are wont to do.

Such "ideas" must be chemically-induced or from a dream state... Because they certainly aren't the result of scientific inquiry. All of the evidence to date says that 99%+ (probably > 99.9%) of the cores are either within the RPVs or on the floor of the primary containments. The most comprehensive simulation that I've seen implied that the corium in the worst-melted unit burned about 1/3 of the way (inches) through the first layer of concrete above the steel bottom of the contanment vessel (which is then above 25 additional feet of concrete).

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The problem of spent fuel storage pools at nuclear power plants progree Aug 2013 #1
K&R! Great article, a must-read, IMO. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2013 #2
Damned if they do, damned if they don't HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #3
No, reactor three has the UO2/MOX fuel. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #4
You're right, it wasn't MOX HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #5
Still not unicorns and rainbows if it catches on fire though.. AtheistCrusader Aug 2013 #6
It's one reason why thorium molten salt reactors were abandoned Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #14
All spent fuel rods have plutonium in them - during fission, some of the uranium captures neutrons progree Aug 2013 #8
Thanks to both of you for your explanations. HoneychildMooseMoss Aug 2013 #10
Assuming that TEPCO...... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #7
Yup, that's why they are worried - better to TRY to get this done now rather than later progree Aug 2013 #9
Great links! Thanks! nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #13
K&R! hrmjustin Aug 2013 #11
K&R. silvershadow Aug 2013 #12
Funny, it's on Reuter's front page RIGHT NOW, but it's NOT "late breaking news" per DU? go figger. nilram Aug 2013 #15
It's not breaking news because... FBaggins Aug 2013 #39
It's not just Arnie Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #48
Those are entirely different things FBaggins Aug 2013 #49
Scary shit davidpdx Aug 2013 #16
There are earthquakes in Japan every day Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #17
That's a little too close for comfort for me davidpdx Aug 2013 #24
Interestingly enough, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #29
I heard a lot of foreigners did leave or move to other places in Japan davidpdx Aug 2013 #43
There was (still is?) an official advisory to US citizens to not stay for more than a year Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #45
The Korean Navy just got a new submarine davidpdx Aug 2013 #47
This picture was taken a few days after the 3-11 earthquake Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #32
Earthquakes In Japan? We GOT your earthquakes in Japan right here... PearliePoo2 Aug 2013 #26
The seismic activity for March-May 2011 is really amazing Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #28
Tell me how building these things were a good idea to begin with madokie Aug 2013 #18
In Japan, at least, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #19
Good, that's the correct course of action. Sirveri Aug 2013 #20
Yes it is. But it will be dangerous as hell.... Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #21
Why? FBaggins Aug 2013 #41
"Arnie's nonsense"??? Really? Junkdrawer Aug 2013 #51
Yes... really. FBaggins Aug 2013 #52
So then the question is, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #22
The safe place is clearly not where it currently is. Sirveri Aug 2013 #37
Of course, transporting such hazardous materials by truck would not be so safe, Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #44
I've got a really bad feeling about this... PearliePoo2 Aug 2013 #23
The Tokyo Metro Area has 30 million population Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #30
30 plus million??? Good grief! PearliePoo2 Aug 2013 #33
It is pretty darn dense Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #36
not as scary as leaving them there. hobbit709 Aug 2013 #25
Hey, the Fukiexperts say will say...wait. Where are our experts? Safetykitten Aug 2013 #27
Ask your doctor if plutonium is right for you. Octafish Aug 2013 #31
You know what the 1% say to the possibility of 30 million deaths? WinkyDink Aug 2013 #34
Reactor #4 RobertEarl Aug 2013 #35
Hardly a thing right in there. FBaggins Aug 2013 #40
Haha RobertEarl Aug 2013 #46
Hilarious FBaggins Aug 2013 #50
Heh RobertEarl Aug 2013 #53
Even more hilarious... keep 'em coming. FBaggins Aug 2013 #54
So, you got nothing? RobertEarl Aug 2013 #55
Oh... my apologies. FBaggins Aug 2013 #56
Wow RobertEarl Aug 2013 #59
Five reactors under construction within spittin' distance of your front door FBaggins Aug 2013 #60
the structure is likely tilted and is bulging after its last explosion magical thyme Aug 2013 #57
Not really. FBaggins Aug 2013 #58
No, I'm not saying. Reuters is saying, based on the people they interviewed magical thyme Aug 2013 #62
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #61
k and r for solar and wind DonRedwood Aug 2013 #38
Incalculable rational; rational to move spent fuel to stable off site location for best case. PufPuf23 Aug 2013 #42
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