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In reply to the discussion: After more than a year of domestic terrorism against Occupy, Obama continues to acidically mock us [View all]phleshdef
(11,936 posts)First off, the President doesn't control every local police force in the country and that's a good thing. I would hate for a Republican tyrant to have that kind of power.
Many Occupy arrests were due to protestors blocking intersections and pedestrian traffic or refusing to comply with dispersal orders which are legal based on local codes and laws. People have the RIGHT to protest but people who aren't participating also have the RIGHT to travel, go to work and go about their day without being impeded by protestors.
Yes, there have been very troubling instances of police brutality toward protestors, but to blame that on the federal government is just idiotic. Based on your spin, you'd think the President of the United States is micromanaging every police officer at every protest in every city and every state in the country. Its ludicrous. Officers getting out of line is a local issue.
But to answer your question, no the definition of domestic terrorism does not apply. Police attempting to break up massive protests that are causing logistical problems for average citizens within these cities is not unlawful. Likewise, if theres a concern for the security or property of others, they can step in and break it up. And whenever you have thousands of people coming together to protest, there is almost always going to be sects within that group that protest in a way that's going to attract law enforcement intervention. I've been to an occupy protest, don't act like everyone participating is a mature adult behaving themselves. That's not the case. There are pockets of rowdy, immature people in all of them. And that's all it takes to attract the wrong kind of attention.
Theres a fine line between peaceful protests and disturbing the peace. In a lot of these instances, disturbing the peace can be rightfully cited as the reason for law enforcement trying to move a crowd. In some cases, you have officers who are power maniacs with short fuses and they go overboard. Those officers should be investigated and fired, but that's still a city issue, whether you like it or not.
I'm all for a productive conversation about the limits to free speech and cracking down hard on police brutality. But the way you portray the situation is completely off the rails and out of touch with the reality of the way things work.