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In reply to the discussion: After more than a year of domestic terrorism against Occupy, Obama continues to acidically mock us [View all]JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)30. So if I don't agree that the arrest of these folks is the same as
Domestic Terrorism, apparently, I'm not alarmed enough.
Geeze ... this is like debating the guy on the subway who thinks he is Jesus here to redeem the world.
Forinstance ... you said this ...
No FEMA camps, just facts. Tell me how the US government definitions of domestic terrorism do not directly and factually apply to 7,762 arrests of peaceful activists engaging in the 1st Amendment (and NO BANKSTERS WHATSOEVER arrested then or now).
Why would the "banksters" being arrested or not, have any bearing on whether the arrest of those Occupy protesters was "domestic terrorism"?
Those are unrelated. You bolt them together as if the lack of arrests of "banksters" bolsters your other claim. Its does not. Its a non argument.
Back to protesters getting arrested. The argument you make is that about 8000 Occupy folks were arrested and that is a violation of their 1st amendment rights, and (by some additional leap) also domestic terrorism. And it happened about 8000 times, in various locations, around the country.
What makes the arrest of Occupy protesters more special than special ... more like "domestic terrorism" than the arrest of any other protest group or groups? Why not include the arrest of all protesters who are ever arrested, anywhere in the country?
Of course you can't make any such argument because a goal in many protests is to GET ARRESTED. Its an intended outcome.
So what do you think? Do you think the Occupy folks were unaware that they could be arrested for camping out in locations and breaking local laws in the process? Or, was getting arrested PART OF THE PLAN for many of them.
You get arrested, and it draws attention to your cause. TV crews come. Maybe you get more protesters.
In North Carolina, over 1000 people have been arrested during Moral Monday protests of Pat McCrory and recent GOP legislation. Those protesters know that they might get arrested.
I guess THAT is also an example of Obama's domestic terrorism.
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After more than a year of domestic terrorism against Occupy, Obama continues to acidically mock us [View all]
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
OP
Truth. And sarcasm/mockery is the language of sadists. We hated it when W did it to us... n/t
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#5
Often takes the application of mental energy to know what's going on in the world around us.
LanternWaste
Aug 2013
#6
It's okay when Egypt's generals murder hundreds, but not when American cops beat somebody?
Comrade Grumpy
Aug 2013
#8
I never knew just how many Occupiers were arrested. over 7700? That is outrageous.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#9
Your reply indicates a discomfort with Civil Disobedience and perhaps a need to better understand
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#31
There most definitely is a "them" about whom Occupy has been speaking. Examples:
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#39
According to the real, actual, factual FBI and "patriot act" definitions of domestic terrorism, YES.
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#14
You believe the corrupt systems can provide justice? Look at Wall Street and banks such as HSBC,
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#19
Again, check the factual, US government-issued definition of domestic terrorist
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#34
Gentle jokes in the midst of obduracy may be overlooked or misunderstood.
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#40
How many OWS people were arrested by the federal government vs those who were killed by Egypt's
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#56
No, Obama is a 'terrrorist' according to deranged, insane psychopaths who have no ability to grasp
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#54
Read the definition(s) of domestic terrorism and explain to me how they do not apply
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#20
Your reality, facts, and logica are terrorism against the paranoid fantasies
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#55
Weird how the arrests of more than 7,762 peaceful activists under a "democratic" president fails
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#23
people only care what happens to people they agree with. Sad fact of humanity.
liberal_at_heart
Aug 2013
#25
Many got probation after months of worrisome court dates and extremely aggressive prosecutors.
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#49
I'm glad your local group had a positive experience. Small towns can be like that
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#52
I'm not sure if Domestic Terrorist is an upgrade or not. What do you think?
KittyWampus
Aug 2013
#22
One opinion. You don't speak for the entirity of occupy so why use the word "us?"
great white snark
Aug 2013
#13
No, I do not speak for the entire movement. However, I am observing and reporting upon what occurred
Fire Walk With Me
Aug 2013
#18
"Obama is to blame" said someone who has no idea of how our government actually works. nt
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#57
Obama didn't arrest Occupy Demonstrators. Simple fact whereas your post is a paranoid fantasy, nt
geek tragedy
Aug 2013
#53