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Fire Walk With Me

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41. Posting this here as well:
Thu Aug 15, 2013, 04:21 PM
Aug 2013

It is more than arrests. It is intimidation, beatings, the threat of arrest, harassment, media lies, DHS and FBI spying and sharing our info with corporations...by those who have by now proven repeatedly to be genuinely on the side of those we decry.

The non-arrest of banksters and their continued coddling and bail-out goes to motive, and Obama has by now shown plenty.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022445620

Obama specifically protects and enables Wall Street and the corporations who are enjoying undue, direct influence in "our" government (Mussolini calls Fascism a merger of state and corporate power). DHS have been long since militarizing "our" police departments. DHS spied upon us and include top-level people such as Peter King who flatly, publicly stated that Occupy must not be allowed to gain the same sort of influence as the 60s activists he remembered, lest we actually affect government policy. (Note that the "tea party" who were co-created by the multi-billionaire Koch brothers have not only direct influence of government through protest, but enjoy some three state governors under their control...how are they allowed to influence government police but we are arrested to the tune of thousands?).

Know what? I've seen several Occupiers arrested repeatedly, singled out by cops, given phony felony charges which the cops were smilingly happy to show up in court to enforce. I don't know about your state, but in CA a single felony can bar you from a majority of job opportunities. Even if it's due to completely made-up charges; it destroys lives and the cops were going nuts handing them out to see what could be made stick. I did court support and going through that system creates a lot of stress upon people. The cops go home whistling; our people go under months of stress. Again, some were targeted repeatedly. They were not attempting to get arrested:



This Occupier had been arrested two days earlier, and here are the cops grabbing him again while he's standing still, looking entirely in the other direction. This is what went on and is still going on. To be forced into the court system with the threat of losing life opportunities or even your freedom over phony charges is direct intimidation. One area commander even mocked a woman he'd earlier had arrested (when he saw her at a later protest).

I'm not going on a tangent away from discussing Occupy into qualifying other groups. No tangents.

Know that in our training, we were made very aware of three zones of arrest possibility (safe at the outside, more danger toward the target, danger of arrest at the target) only at certain actions where arrests might be possible. Our training told us to not get arrested, at least here in LA, because of the hassle involved. The threat of arrest, of being repeatedly singled out and arrested, IS intimidation.

And if you've somehow missed the images and video of police brutality I've posted from the "democratic" national convention, check out a very little bit of what occurred in Oakland via a "democratic" mayor (who had been in a conference call with 18 other mayors regarding what to "do" about Occupy encampments). Note the near-death experiences of two peaceful Veterans and the repeated lies out of city hall:

http://occupyobservations.blogspot.com/2012/01/oakland-officials-caught-in-lies-about.html

Police brutality. Police profiling. Phony arrests and phony charges. Intimidation. Courts experiences. Hundreds upon hundreds of militarized police against us, over and over and over and over. "GO HOME AND SHUT UP" is the clear message, and it comes down from government. Remember the genuinely corporate "tea party" have their way with the government, but we are beaten and jailed. For well over a year.

Maybe you had to be there for it to make sense, that the government's message is “DO WHAT WE SAY OR ELSE”.

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Are you comparing 525 dead in Egypt with Occupy? msanthrope Aug 2013 #1
We needed to relearn these old wise sayings: KoKo Aug 2013 #2
Truth. And sarcasm/mockery is the language of sadists. We hated it when W did it to us... n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #5
Occu-what? Redneck_Dem Aug 2013 #3
Often takes the application of mental energy to know what's going on in the world around us. LanternWaste Aug 2013 #6
Welcome to DU! Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #7
Kinda false equivalency, there... MineralMan Aug 2013 #4
Why don't you agree? KarKar Aug 2013 #59
In time, I am sure you will MineralMan Aug 2013 #60
It's okay when Egypt's generals murder hundreds, but not when American cops beat somebody? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #8
I never knew just how many Occupiers were arrested. over 7700? That is outrageous. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #9
7,762 according to this site Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #11
Tell me...how many of these people were arrested? brooklynite Aug 2013 #24
Your reply indicates a discomfort with Civil Disobedience and perhaps a need to better understand Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #31
You're welcome to believe in, and engage in civil disobedience... brooklynite Aug 2013 #35
There most definitely is a "them" about whom Occupy has been speaking. Examples: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #39
k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #10
Now the President is a Domestic Terrorist. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #12
According to the real, actual, factual FBI and "patriot act" definitions of domestic terrorism, YES. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #14
I guess we should impeach him. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #15
You believe the corrupt systems can provide justice? Look at Wall Street and banks such as HSBC, Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #19
I did consider the issues you presented. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #26
Again, check the factual, US government-issued definition of domestic terrorist Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #34
You clearly missed the joke about blue links. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #37
Gentle jokes in the midst of obduracy may be overlooked or misunderstood. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #40
How many OWS people were arrested by the federal government vs those who were killed by Egypt's geek tragedy Aug 2013 #56
No, Obama is a 'terrrorist' according to deranged, insane psychopaths who have no ability to grasp geek tragedy Aug 2013 #54
I've seen him called that before on DU. great white snark Aug 2013 #16
Read the definition(s) of domestic terrorism and explain to me how they do not apply Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #20
Such simple minded bullshit. phleshdef Aug 2013 #29
Great Post. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #36
you win the thread. nt dionysus Aug 2013 #47
Your reality, facts, and logica are terrorism against the paranoid fantasies geek tragedy Aug 2013 #55
+1000 n/t FSogol Aug 2013 #58
Amazing isn't it. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #21
Weird how the arrests of more than 7,762 peaceful activists under a "democratic" president fails Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #23
people only care what happens to people they agree with. Sad fact of humanity. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #25
i would alter that statment to start with 'some' laundry_queen Aug 2013 #27
Why do you think I disagree with the Occupy folks? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #28
So if I don't agree that the arrest of these folks is the same as JoePhilly Aug 2013 #30
Posting this here as well: Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #41
Fire Walk of the 7762 Generic Other Aug 2013 #48
Many got probation after months of worrisome court dates and extremely aggressive prosecutors. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #49
I didn't realize so many cases had such negative outcomes Generic Other Aug 2013 #50
I'm glad your local group had a positive experience. Small towns can be like that Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Generic Other Aug 2013 #51
I'm not sure if Domestic Terrorist is an upgrade or not. What do you think? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #22
I think suggesting that the Presdient is a Domestic Terrorist, JoePhilly Aug 2013 #32
One opinion. You don't speak for the entirity of occupy so why use the word "us?" great white snark Aug 2013 #13
No, I do not speak for the entire movement. However, I am observing and reporting upon what occurred Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #18
If Obama is to blame, you should be demanding his impeachment. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #33
A large enough group of those pissed, IS a plan. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #42
"Obama is to blame" said someone who has no idea of how our government actually works. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #57
uh huh. zappaman Aug 2013 #17
. dionysus Aug 2013 #38
mphmphph. titter. giggle. DevonRex Aug 2013 #45
Oh my God! Number23 Aug 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #43
So you think Obama is a domestic terrorist? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #44
Yes, she does think President Obama is a terrorist. DevonRex Aug 2013 #46
Obama didn't arrest Occupy Demonstrators. Simple fact whereas your post is a paranoid fantasy, nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #53
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