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xmas74

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8. Exactly.

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 05:06 PM

Aug 2013

It has nothing to do with Americans not wanting to do the work but rather the conditions offered for the work and other outside considerations.

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"Part of the problem is that Americans just plain do not want to do the work." [View all] xmas74 Aug 2013 OP

Not enough nursing programs in the USA to meet the need. Coyotl Aug 2013 #1

That was my response in the thread. xmas74 Aug 2013 #4

NOT True FreakinDJ Aug 2013 #21

That too. xmas74 Aug 2013 #35

And there are not enough nursing programs because nurses make more actually working Nay Aug 2013 #36

Americans will do any work that presents itself but only if Warpy Aug 2013 #2

Exactly. xmas74 Aug 2013 #8

We need people to work at 3rd world wages. Turbineguy Aug 2013 #52

how to pay management bonuses and wallstreet w0nderer Aug 2013 #61

Nurse-Practitioners can easily earn $75,000 per year or more working a standard shift. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #68

A friend of mine worked as an RN, then transferred to a nurse-practitioner program bhikkhu Aug 2013 #80

We want to work, employers don't want to pay us. Big difference. Initech Aug 2013 #3

S/he felt the need to "school" me about the subject, xmas74 Aug 2013 #7

Admissions to Nursing programs is extremely competitive. The empressof all Aug 2013 #5

I have a friend xmas74 Aug 2013 #9

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #6

Thank you. xmas74 Aug 2013 #10

Yeah, it's bullshit leftstreet Aug 2013 #12

I don't know when it became such a minority view. xmas74 Aug 2013 #14

There was a time... leftstreet Aug 2013 #17

sadly, 'callouts' are necessary now Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #22

Remember how, once upon a time, xmas74 Aug 2013 #45

Why are nurses still so poorly compensated when ... Scuba Aug 2013 #11

If you read the thread I linked to xmas74 Aug 2013 #13

Entry level RN jobs don't pay that, although specialists can command more, sometimes much more. Scuba Aug 2013 #15

Specialists are a different subject. xmas74 Aug 2013 #19

I'm an associates-level RN, and the pay is the same for ADN as BSN Heddi Aug 2013 #29

I know locally they don't want to hire ADN. xmas74 Aug 2013 #37

A lot of hospitals only want BSN because they are trying to get or are "Magnet Status" Heddi Aug 2013 #39

That makes sense xmas74 Aug 2013 #43

I'm an RN. Hospitals don't hire new grads anymore Heddi Aug 2013 #26

Funny you mention the call lights xmas74 Aug 2013 #32

Associates can make $60k, depending on the city. Seattle, for example, easy 60k with associates Heddi Aug 2013 #34

I know St Mary's in Kansas City still offers one xmas74 Aug 2013 #38

There are a few, but they're going bye-bye Heddi Aug 2013 #41

I looked into an LPN program a couple of years ago xmas74 Aug 2013 #44

I don't even know of a hospital that hires LPN's anymore. Heddi Aug 2013 #46

Good luck! xmas74 Aug 2013 #48

I agree with everything you said with one exception .... Scuba Aug 2013 #42

Nurses are not poorly compensated where I live. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #55

They aren't making that in Missouri, where I live. xmas74 Aug 2013 #57

It varies from state to state. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #60

I bet! xmas74 Aug 2013 #69

I think the bottom line is Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #70

I have family in the field xmas74 Aug 2013 #73

When I graduated nursing school in the 70's I started at 4.25 an hour. :) Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #96

What was minimum wage at that time? xmas74 Aug 2013 #97

I looked it up. $2.30/hr. Wild huh? LOL nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #100

That's pretty cool. xmas74 Aug 2013 #105

Same reason teachers are KamaAina Aug 2013 #102

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Aug 2013 #104

Trust me -- That poster is a full of shit sockpuppet Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #16

Our local univeristy has a separate application for four majors- xmas74 Aug 2013 #24

"Part of the problem is that American companies just plain do not want to pay a decent wage." nt bemildred Aug 2013 #18

Bingo. nt xmas74 Aug 2013 #25

And they know they don't have to, because the government will assist them in depressing wages with Marr Aug 2013 #64

Yeah, I know, it's like the government doesn't like tax money. bemildred Aug 2013 #65

It's a BS Meme Hydra Aug 2013 #20

I have a friend right now who has been in the field for 15 years. xmas74 Aug 2013 #27

Your friend must not know many RN's. Heddi Aug 2013 #30

She lives in Missouri and has been in the field for years. xmas74 Aug 2013 #40

18 months is a diploma, and not many places offer diplomas. ADN is 24 months minimum Heddi Aug 2013 #31

My friend has really struggled since the recession/depression started Hydra Aug 2013 #33

But they love gardening Politicalboi Aug 2013 #23

That just made me laugh. xmas74 Aug 2013 #28

Two year wait to get into a jc nursing program here. You can't even jtuck004 Aug 2013 #47

Same here. xmas74 Aug 2013 #49

Many problems TNNurse Aug 2013 #50

My wife just retired after being an RN for 40+ years. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #51

I knew someone who moved to Alaska xmas74 Aug 2013 #56

I bet if you ask her how many Americans don't want to do the work, Squinch Aug 2013 #53

Bingo n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #54

lol xmas74 Aug 2013 #58

I have seen this propganda here Crow73 Aug 2013 #59

You're welcome. xmas74 Aug 2013 #71

99% is the 1%;s slave wage dreams. lark Aug 2013 #62

Thank you! xmas74 Aug 2013 #78

...for the low wage we're offering." Marr Aug 2013 #63

Or excessively long hours or xmas74 Aug 2013 #83

Logically, demand can still exceed the capacity of schools to train nurses. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #66

But the poster at the link states it's not because people don't want the training xmas74 Aug 2013 #77

15 SLOTS PER YEAR IN THE MRI PROGRAM IN OREGON. cliffordu Aug 2013 #67

There are only 15 slots because the AMA restricts the supply. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #74

And, the student has to have a practicum site to do the hands on..... cliffordu Aug 2013 #81

Congratulations! xmas74 Aug 2013 #79

Yeah, really! She is awesome. cliffordu Aug 2013 #87

Really infuriating. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #72

The poster claims to be an HCA. xmas74 Aug 2013 #76

(s)he is an employer and therefore wants to exploit. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #85

Don't believe it Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #98

I don't believe it, not totally. xmas74 Aug 2013 #99

that is the Bullshit line they use. mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #75

It's an excuse to farm our jobs out xmas74 Aug 2013 #84

Translation: Part of the problem is that employers don't want to pay Americans what they're worth meow2u3 Aug 2013 #82

You hear stories about that happening. xmas74 Aug 2013 #86

Space helmet... check, asbestos blanket... check, cyanide tablet... check, okay, here it goes. Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #88

But how long ago was this? xmas74 Aug 2013 #90

All three in the last ten years Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #92

If parents are paying for it then they'll do whatever. xmas74 Aug 2013 #94

Pure BS. THey just don't want to pay higher wages to nurses. on point Aug 2013 #89

That or they don't want to xmas74 Aug 2013 #91

I'm an LPN tavernier Aug 2013 #93

I absolutely believe you. xmas74 Aug 2013 #95

Americans will do anything for money but most of us expect a decent wage in return. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #101

We will do almost anything for money. xmas74 Aug 2013 #106

I do not know nything about nursing. I do know a couple that... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #103

I don't know. xmas74 Aug 2013 #107

Is this all for little ol' me? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #108