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In reply to the discussion: Report: Mormons Posthumously Baptize Anne Frank (this past Saturday) [View all]Johnny Rico
(1,438 posts)100. Hm...I think we still have poor analogies.
But my RESPONSE (and that is what I am doing here, responding) is that the mere act of voicing that view is somewhat insulting in the same way (Not the same situation, but the same WAY) as it would be to tell a black person that they shouldn't be offended by the suggestion that they should be good at dancing or the suggestion that a homosexual woman just needs to meet the right guy, or something like that.
In each of these cases you would be speaking of something that is demonstrably not true (dancing & meeting the right guy)...whereas in the case of the Mormons baptizing Anne Frank, it is something that they have done...they conducted their rituals and said all the appropriate magic words. Whether or not it had the slightest effect is, of course, totally unverifiable (convenient, that).
You have every right to be offended by this, or even by my indifference towards the whole sillly thing. What you don't have is the right not to be offended. I still don't understand how my dismissal of what is (essentially) some witch doctors casting a magic spell is insulting. While I appreciate your efforts to explain it, I guess I still don't "get" it. Allow me to explain via what I think is a good analogy.
I'm part Blackfoot Indian. Were the Mormon church to go to the effort of posthumously baptizing every Blackfoot Indian who had ever lived, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, because what they're trying to do has nothing to do with reality.
So yes, discussion is great and we are STILL discussing. And what I am saying now is part of that discussion.
Which is the whole point of being here, yes?
In each of these cases you would be speaking of something that is demonstrably not true (dancing & meeting the right guy)...whereas in the case of the Mormons baptizing Anne Frank, it is something that they have done...they conducted their rituals and said all the appropriate magic words. Whether or not it had the slightest effect is, of course, totally unverifiable (convenient, that).
You have every right to be offended by this, or even by my indifference towards the whole sillly thing. What you don't have is the right not to be offended. I still don't understand how my dismissal of what is (essentially) some witch doctors casting a magic spell is insulting. While I appreciate your efforts to explain it, I guess I still don't "get" it. Allow me to explain via what I think is a good analogy.
I'm part Blackfoot Indian. Were the Mormon church to go to the effort of posthumously baptizing every Blackfoot Indian who had ever lived, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, because what they're trying to do has nothing to do with reality.
So yes, discussion is great and we are STILL discussing. And what I am saying now is part of that discussion.
Which is the whole point of being here, yes?
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Report: Mormons Posthumously Baptize Anne Frank (this past Saturday) [View all]
Tx4obama
Feb 2012
OP
Bill Maher performed an "unbaptism" on an episode of Real Time a couple weeks ago.
Initech
Feb 2012
#71
The anxiety, fear, uneasiness caused by PTSD won't go away by wishing. One inhabits an
shcrane71
Feb 2012
#50
for starters, I think the LDS in some weird way is flexing the political muscle
Blue_Tires
Feb 2012
#41
I wouldn't give a shit if the Mormons did this "to" any of my dead relatives
ButterflyBlood
Feb 2012
#49
No more and no less than urinating on a grave, burning a flag or book, or Westboro picketing a funer
LanternWaste
Feb 2012
#58
I think what Bill Maher did was perfect several weeks ago, unbaptize mittens /nt
still_one
Feb 2012
#25
weird , so do they believe by doing this Anne Frank will no longer be Jewish or what?
JI7
Feb 2012
#27
That's 100% false - all temple ordinance work is public, anyone can look it up
FreeState
Feb 2012
#67
That's talking about "Restricted" records - which the wiki says are people that have living
FreeState
Feb 2012
#88
I don't know how you'd find her, but the woman mentioned in the OP, Helen Radky
riderinthestorm
Feb 2012
#46
I'm not telling you how you are supposed to feel. I simply voiced my opinion.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#98
How exactly do you insult (of all things) an analogy? Disagreement =/= Insult.
Johnny Rico
Feb 2012
#102