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cliffordu

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87. Yeah, really! She is awesome.

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 08:55 PM

Aug 2013

Except for the fact that she's moving to Georgia next month and there ain't a goddamned thing I can do to prevent it.

I cannot live in Georgia.

We knew this would happen for the last two years, since we met, actually.

But the reality is that it hurts more than anyone could imagine.

But it is what it is.

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"Part of the problem is that Americans just plain do not want to do the work." [View all] xmas74 Aug 2013 OP

Not enough nursing programs in the USA to meet the need. Coyotl Aug 2013 #1

That was my response in the thread. xmas74 Aug 2013 #4

NOT True FreakinDJ Aug 2013 #21

That too. xmas74 Aug 2013 #35

And there are not enough nursing programs because nurses make more actually working Nay Aug 2013 #36

Americans will do any work that presents itself but only if Warpy Aug 2013 #2

Exactly. xmas74 Aug 2013 #8

We need people to work at 3rd world wages. Turbineguy Aug 2013 #52

how to pay management bonuses and wallstreet w0nderer Aug 2013 #61

Nurse-Practitioners can easily earn $75,000 per year or more working a standard shift. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #68

A friend of mine worked as an RN, then transferred to a nurse-practitioner program bhikkhu Aug 2013 #80

We want to work, employers don't want to pay us. Big difference. Initech Aug 2013 #3

S/he felt the need to "school" me about the subject, xmas74 Aug 2013 #7

Admissions to Nursing programs is extremely competitive. The empressof all Aug 2013 #5

I have a friend xmas74 Aug 2013 #9

DURec leftstreet Aug 2013 #6

Thank you. xmas74 Aug 2013 #10

Yeah, it's bullshit leftstreet Aug 2013 #12

I don't know when it became such a minority view. xmas74 Aug 2013 #14

There was a time... leftstreet Aug 2013 #17

sadly, 'callouts' are necessary now Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #22

Remember how, once upon a time, xmas74 Aug 2013 #45

Why are nurses still so poorly compensated when ... Scuba Aug 2013 #11

If you read the thread I linked to xmas74 Aug 2013 #13

Entry level RN jobs don't pay that, although specialists can command more, sometimes much more. Scuba Aug 2013 #15

Specialists are a different subject. xmas74 Aug 2013 #19

I'm an associates-level RN, and the pay is the same for ADN as BSN Heddi Aug 2013 #29

I know locally they don't want to hire ADN. xmas74 Aug 2013 #37

A lot of hospitals only want BSN because they are trying to get or are "Magnet Status" Heddi Aug 2013 #39

That makes sense xmas74 Aug 2013 #43

I'm an RN. Hospitals don't hire new grads anymore Heddi Aug 2013 #26

Funny you mention the call lights xmas74 Aug 2013 #32

Associates can make $60k, depending on the city. Seattle, for example, easy 60k with associates Heddi Aug 2013 #34

I know St Mary's in Kansas City still offers one xmas74 Aug 2013 #38

There are a few, but they're going bye-bye Heddi Aug 2013 #41

I looked into an LPN program a couple of years ago xmas74 Aug 2013 #44

I don't even know of a hospital that hires LPN's anymore. Heddi Aug 2013 #46

Good luck! xmas74 Aug 2013 #48

I agree with everything you said with one exception .... Scuba Aug 2013 #42

Nurses are not poorly compensated where I live. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #55

They aren't making that in Missouri, where I live. xmas74 Aug 2013 #57

It varies from state to state. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #60

I bet! xmas74 Aug 2013 #69

I think the bottom line is Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #70

I have family in the field xmas74 Aug 2013 #73

When I graduated nursing school in the 70's I started at 4.25 an hour. :) Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #96

What was minimum wage at that time? xmas74 Aug 2013 #97

I looked it up. $2.30/hr. Wild huh? LOL nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #100

That's pretty cool. xmas74 Aug 2013 #105

Same reason teachers are KamaAina Aug 2013 #102

Ding, ding, ding. We have a winner. Scuba Aug 2013 #104

Trust me -- That poster is a full of shit sockpuppet Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #16

Our local univeristy has a separate application for four majors- xmas74 Aug 2013 #24

"Part of the problem is that American companies just plain do not want to pay a decent wage." nt bemildred Aug 2013 #18

Bingo. nt xmas74 Aug 2013 #25

And they know they don't have to, because the government will assist them in depressing wages with Marr Aug 2013 #64

Yeah, I know, it's like the government doesn't like tax money. bemildred Aug 2013 #65

It's a BS Meme Hydra Aug 2013 #20

I have a friend right now who has been in the field for 15 years. xmas74 Aug 2013 #27

Your friend must not know many RN's. Heddi Aug 2013 #30

She lives in Missouri and has been in the field for years. xmas74 Aug 2013 #40

18 months is a diploma, and not many places offer diplomas. ADN is 24 months minimum Heddi Aug 2013 #31

My friend has really struggled since the recession/depression started Hydra Aug 2013 #33

But they love gardening Politicalboi Aug 2013 #23

That just made me laugh. xmas74 Aug 2013 #28

Two year wait to get into a jc nursing program here. You can't even jtuck004 Aug 2013 #47

Same here. xmas74 Aug 2013 #49

Many problems TNNurse Aug 2013 #50

My wife just retired after being an RN for 40+ years. Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #51

I knew someone who moved to Alaska xmas74 Aug 2013 #56

I bet if you ask her how many Americans don't want to do the work, Squinch Aug 2013 #53

Bingo n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #54

lol xmas74 Aug 2013 #58

I have seen this propganda here Crow73 Aug 2013 #59

You're welcome. xmas74 Aug 2013 #71

99% is the 1%;s slave wage dreams. lark Aug 2013 #62

Thank you! xmas74 Aug 2013 #78

...for the low wage we're offering." Marr Aug 2013 #63

Or excessively long hours or xmas74 Aug 2013 #83

Logically, demand can still exceed the capacity of schools to train nurses. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #66

But the poster at the link states it's not because people don't want the training xmas74 Aug 2013 #77

15 SLOTS PER YEAR IN THE MRI PROGRAM IN OREGON. cliffordu Aug 2013 #67

There are only 15 slots because the AMA restricts the supply. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #74

And, the student has to have a practicum site to do the hands on..... cliffordu Aug 2013 #81

Congratulations! xmas74 Aug 2013 #79

Yeah, really! She is awesome. cliffordu Aug 2013 #87

Really infuriating. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #72

The poster claims to be an HCA. xmas74 Aug 2013 #76

(s)he is an employer and therefore wants to exploit. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #85

Don't believe it Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #98

I don't believe it, not totally. xmas74 Aug 2013 #99

that is the Bullshit line they use. mstinamotorcity2 Aug 2013 #75

It's an excuse to farm our jobs out xmas74 Aug 2013 #84

Translation: Part of the problem is that employers don't want to pay Americans what they're worth meow2u3 Aug 2013 #82

You hear stories about that happening. xmas74 Aug 2013 #86

Space helmet... check, asbestos blanket... check, cyanide tablet... check, okay, here it goes. Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #88

But how long ago was this? xmas74 Aug 2013 #90

All three in the last ten years Sen. Walter Sobchak Aug 2013 #92

If parents are paying for it then they'll do whatever. xmas74 Aug 2013 #94

Pure BS. THey just don't want to pay higher wages to nurses. on point Aug 2013 #89

That or they don't want to xmas74 Aug 2013 #91

I'm an LPN tavernier Aug 2013 #93

I absolutely believe you. xmas74 Aug 2013 #95

Americans will do anything for money but most of us expect a decent wage in return. Skeeter Barnes Aug 2013 #101

We will do almost anything for money. xmas74 Aug 2013 #106

I do not know nything about nursing. I do know a couple that... Safetykitten Aug 2013 #103

I don't know. xmas74 Aug 2013 #107

Is this all for little ol' me? Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #108