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51. No, just that he's following a familiar path of idealism and disillusionment.

Thu Aug 15, 2013, 11:08 PM

Aug 2013

What's absurd about his claim? Which claim? Why are you obsessed with debunking things about this episode that are so copiously documented?

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Snowden Downloaded NSA Secrets While Working For Dell, Sources Say [View all] Purveyor Aug 2013 OP

What the hell was Dell doing that involved access to PRISM/215/702 programs? There's more NSA leveymg Aug 2013 #1

I think they were working the fiber-optic cable piece. MADem Aug 2013 #4

Dell is not in the fiber optic business nor anything remotely related. leveymg Aug 2013 #6

They've expanded way beyond that. phleshdef Aug 2013 #13

They make handhelds, laptops, and desktops along with some of the circuitry inside leveymg Aug 2013 #14

They work on cybersecurity solutions for the government. phleshdef Aug 2013 #16

Please find a reference to that role. leveymg Aug 2013 #21

Follow the link I posted, its right there phleshdef Aug 2013 #23

They own Perot Systems and Secure Works Paulie Aug 2013 #26

Okay, I found a link for that. Dell acquired Perot Systems in 2009. leveymg Aug 2013 #32

Let me google that for you Paulie Aug 2013 #34

Perhaps they made the hardware and firmware that was used on the MADem Aug 2013 #19

There's no reason that a manufacturer of computer equipment needs to know about how PRISM's leveymg Aug 2013 #24

Well, if they're making a piece of equipment that has to be MADem Aug 2013 #35

Where do you get the idea that he had access to PRISM? randome Aug 2013 #22

From the slides (and his statements). Or, haven't you looked at them? leveymg Aug 2013 #27

The slides are not 'PRISM data'. they're briefing documents. randome Aug 2013 #30

Those slides kinda looked like a "Welcome Aboard" briefing to me. MADem Aug 2013 #53

Public-private partnerships are a dangerous trend that threatens our Constitutional Rights. Baitball Blogger Aug 2013 #31

He's fucked. He'd better get his Russkie Rosetta Stone and start practicing; that's his new home. MADem Aug 2013 #2

Dell works for the NSA?! bunnies Aug 2013 #3

That helps explain the timeline� it's looking increasingly as if S. hooked up w/hackers KittyWampus Aug 2013 #5

There's a ton of circumstantial evidence around that he was groomed by Wikileaks. Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #8

Yes, I've been following the people who follow hackers. I agree w/calling them anarchists KittyWampus Aug 2013 #10

So far, it's the American people who have benefited most from knowing that their gov't spies on all leveymg Aug 2013 #11

Yeah. Typical Putin op, IMO. Uses the free press against us DevonRex Aug 2013 #17

Yup. It's all just a commie plot because "they hate our freedoms." Liberals are part of it. leveymg Aug 2013 #28

He loves our freedom of the press. To exploit. DevonRex Aug 2013 #33

The NSA paid for his hacker schooling. dkf Aug 2013 #36

Who groomed him? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #42

It appears his first real job was with the CIA. leveymg Aug 2013 #43

The CIA groomed him to release NSA information? Maybe... KittyWampus Aug 2013 #44

Not bound to this explanation, but makes as much sense as anything else we've heard. leveymg Aug 2013 #45

Wikileaks people� anarchist hackers� doing it on a 4chan dare for lolz? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #52

I certainly expected that he did. I don't know why anyone would think Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #7

Sounds like he poked around at Dell, then moved to BAH to see if he could snag more struggle4progress Aug 2013 #9

That makes sense, as far as it goes. leveymg Aug 2013 #12

Yup Skraxx Aug 2013 #15

I knew Michael Dell was the anti-Christ kwassa Aug 2013 #18

Wasn't this obvious? Geez. dkf Aug 2013 #20

It obviously doesn't help Snowden's case. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #25

How does it change it? leveymg Aug 2013 #29

Exactly. Fearless Aug 2013 #37

I'll let you figure it out. ProSense Aug 2013 #38

Greenwald let something slip about him stealing from CIA DevonRex Aug 2013 #40

Snowden said he considered doing this as early as 2008, while at CIA, before Dell. leveymg Aug 2013 #46

You think this is good? ProSense Aug 2013 #47

I think Snowden is just as smart, idealistic (and just as naive) as Chris Boyce. Look him up. leveymg Aug 2013 #49

Is that your way of acknowledging that his claim was absurd? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #50

No, just that he's following a familiar path of idealism and disillusionment. leveymg Aug 2013 #51

Snowden issues new statement: ProSense Aug 2013 #39

If some of the post writers only knew how totally out of reality they appear to be, They hear two Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #48

LOL. The "security" the National Security provides is as full of holes as its CYA statements. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #41