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Showing Original Post only (View all)Remember when Obama said the NSA wasn’t “actually abusing” its powers? He was wrong. [View all]
Remember when Obama said the NSA wasnt actually abusing its powers? He was wrong.
By Andrea Peterson, Published: August 15 at 10:28 pm

At a Friday press conference, President Barack Obama insisted that the threat of NSA abuses was mostly theoretical:
If you look at the reports, even the disclosures that Mr. Snowdens put forward, all the stories that have been written, what youre not reading about is the government actually abusing these programs and, you know, listening in on peoples phone calls or inappropriately reading peoples emails.
What youre hearing about is the prospect that these could be abused. Now part of the reason theyre not abused is because theyre these checks are in place, and those abuses would be against the law and would be against the orders of the FISC (Foreign Intelligence Sureveillance Court).
Today our colleague Barton Gellman released new documents that contradicted Obamas claims.
Gellman obtained an audit of the NSAs compliance record from NSA leaker Snowden earlier in the summer. The audit, dated May 2012, counted 2,776 incidents in the preceding 12 months where the agency engaged in unauthorized collection, storage, access to or distribution of legally protected communications. The audit only covered issues at NSA facilities in the Washington, DC area and Fort Meade areas.
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So the NSA has, in fact, been listening in on peoples phone calls.
Obama said that wasnt supposed to happen because it would be against the orders of the FISC. So why didnt the judges on the court catch these abuses?
In another story broken by the Post today, the Chief of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Court admits he doesnt actually have the capability to investigate the compliance record of NSA surveillance programs:
The FISC is forced to rely upon the accuracy of the information that is provided to the Court [...]The FISC does not have the capacity to investigate issues of noncompliance, and in that respect the FISC is in the same position as any other court when it comes to enforcing [government] compliance with its orders.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/08/15/remember-when-obama-said-the-nsa-wasnt-actually-abusing-its-powers-he-was-wrong/
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Remember when Obama said the NSA wasn’t “actually abusing” its powers? He was wrong. [View all]
Catherina
Aug 2013
OP
Butt hurt. Keep bringing it on, Catherina! The truth will defeat the ProCheney, ProAuthoritarians.
chimpymustgo
Aug 2013
#107
What I heard him say it that we have a system that can be abused but isnt being abused
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#61
That sounds about right. They really do think we are all stupid. Although the frenzied reactions
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#77
I think they are well aware that a lot of Americans, while maybe not stupid, really dont care.
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#93
Zero mistakes are impossible. The rate is extremely low though, you must admit.
JaneyVee
Aug 2013
#98
Yeah, something like that. Exactly that. And only McCain & Graham could go to Egypt
Catherina
Aug 2013
#10
"I don't want to see the first Black President of the US go down on something this stupid."
ProSense
Aug 2013
#15
You're correct. When he totally absolved the past, saying "go forward, not back",
delrem
Aug 2013
#46
With the Internet, we may see the first President to DO something about it....
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2013
#29
There is a fine line between rhetoric and lying. He is certainly a master at rhetoric. nm
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#63
Do you honestly believe the CIA hasn't had ongoing operations regardless of who's President?
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2013
#25
I'm glad I'm not the only one pointing out that the OP is using an NSA document. nt
msanthrope
Aug 2013
#83
Why is it when when some people are wrong, they're LYING, but when others are wrong
Dreamer Tatum
Aug 2013
#74
At this point its hard to take SnowGlen fans seriously because of the consummate amount of sophistry
uponit7771
Aug 2013
#90
Well, now that he knows of the abuse, I'm sure Obama will prosecute the abusers....won't he?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#78
Holder is on it! Like the SEC on Wall Street, or banking regulators on Bof A
Safetykitten
Aug 2013
#79