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(114,904 posts)and for the record, I was the one that alerted on kitten's op. Had she not blamed the entire universe of problems in this country SOLELY on President Obama, I would not have done so. Now I'm hardly known here as a big Obama supporter; a day rarely goes by when I'm not accused by at least one person of being an "Obama hater", but that kind of ridiculous and erroneous shit doesn't belong on DU. Criticize Obama and the administration? You bet. That's not what kitten was engaging in. Read like it came right off a wingnut site of ill repute.
I think you're making a lot of predictions with shaky evidence- such as these:
Western Europe is vulnerable to African and Russian chaos, but certain small national pockets have a high probability of being spared significant hardship even in that event.
Chile and western Argentina are perfect for the climate change scenario but lack developed armies to defend themselves from the chaos that will be emanating very strongly I believe from the Brazilian and Argentine coast.
Who the hell knows? This kind of stuff simply can't be predicted with any fucking degree of accuracy as there are far, far too many variables involved.
Then you make this claim:
The reason it is not exhibiting itself as "global warming" (IE; the air around us and soil under our feet is not getting hotter)
Actually, those claims are wrong and the evidence has been around for years. I could give you dozens of links to evidence that you're wrong:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming.html
http://www.nrdc.org/globalwarming/
http://www.livescience.com/37003-global-warming.html
And say what?
Parts of South America and Western Europe are the only other parts of the world that have solid chances of escaping the resource shortage struggles totally unscathed.
Based on what? And how the hell is Western Europe going to be able to produce enough food to feed the well over hundred million who already live there, should the worst in unrest and climate change consume the world within the next 30 years?
Oh, and blaming one generation or another en masse, is just stupid blame game crap.