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13. The question is who will be remembered a century from now?
Fri Aug 16, 2013, 09:02 PM
Aug 2013

I would suspect it will be Twain. He and Colbert are not in the same league. That said, Colbert is comparable to the great TV talk show hosts of all time. Definitely better than Johnny Carson IMO or even Letterman who I like a lot. Funnier than John Stewart. And Saturday Night Live. There was a time a few years ago, when the old SNL crew were box office gold (Chase, Belushi, Akroyd, Murray, Murphy). Where are they today? Not making A-list comedies. Has Colbert had a career as long as Bob Hope? Is he as well-known? I believe Hope would have liked Colbert. And what about Lucy Ball or Phyllis Diller? Is Colbert even as well-known as they were? Or Will Rogers was in his day? They all had major studio support Colbert lacks. His humor is topical and quickly dates itself as insider jokes no longer resonate. He hasn't made a Howard Stern type movie to help propel his career or sink it.

If Twain was being compared to Dave Barry, you could at least say they both wrote for the newspapers. Again, not what Colbert does. I think you are right Twain would love Colbert though. Probably give him a nickname or purposely mispronounce his name. I could easily visualize Colbert's persona as a character-type from a Twain novel. Like Tom Sawyer's brother Sid. Or the Dauphin from Huck Finn. Or some shady riverboat gambler that Twain would have heaved off the boat at Natchez for cheating at cards.

He also loved people who would do what Colbert does. The deadpan humor, the seemingly lighthearted pokes that draw blood. Twain invented that. He was notorious for writing very snarky letters to the editor. I wish Mark Twain was here today to post on DU.

I would be more likely to compare Twain to Michael Moore before I'd choose Colbert. But Twain would probably think they were both a hoot.

on edit: Adding one more person. Garrison Keillor.

Laughter is absolutely essential, esp. during our days of national madness... CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2013 #1
Personally, I don't think I could have survived vanlassie Aug 2013 #2
I think Jon is looking to exit the next time the contracts come due... WCGreen Aug 2013 #3
just serves to underscore the power of progressive sensibilities sigmasix Aug 2013 #4
Sorry to disagree with you but,, ho hum ........... wandy Aug 2013 #5
Kurt was at least two generations ago... WCGreen Aug 2013 #6
My thoughts exactly. FSogol Aug 2013 #11
Vonnegut said much........... wandy Aug 2013 #18
Does he write all his own material? Generic Other Aug 2013 #7
He does write some of his stuff including his books... WCGreen Aug 2013 #8
And you would compare someone who writes "some" of his stuff Generic Other Aug 2013 #9
I am meerly poiting out that Colbert, as was Twain, the premier satarists of their time... WCGreen Aug 2013 #10
The question is who will be remembered a century from now? Generic Other Aug 2013 #13
Many of the past greats you mention are unknown to the current generation. randome Aug 2013 #25
It is no insult to Colbert to say he is no Twain; Twain was beyond all superlatives REP Aug 2013 #12
Most comic voices have a dark edge, don't they? Generic Other Aug 2013 #14
Twain was very bitter but tried to fight it REP Aug 2013 #16
Well when you lose all your money in bad investments and you bury two of your daughters... WCGreen Aug 2013 #20
No he's not in Twain's league malaise Aug 2013 #15
The thing is Twain was the premier Saturist of his era... WCGreen Aug 2013 #22
You're 100% correct re satire malaise Aug 2013 #23
Maybe that's the problem Shankapotomus Aug 2013 #17
The White House Correspondents Dinner GreatCaesarsGhost Aug 2013 #19
Yep, a modern classic.... WCGreen Aug 2013 #21
I bought the DVD at the c-span store. Graybeard Aug 2013 #27
Can't say. scarletlib Aug 2013 #24
Yes. Humorist, satarist and prolific. KurtNYC Aug 2013 #26
I'd say he is more like the Will Rogers of our time, Twain was a novelist and story teller as well Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #28
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