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backscatter712

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47. Shaky probable cause. Some judges have ruled that's not good enough.

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 03:48 PM

Feb 2012

And your lawyer will create enough doubt in court that the cops had sufficient probable cause to search, try to get the evidence suppressed, threaten to explain that to the jury, and the DA's will be begging to dismiss or give you a nice plea-bargain.

But if you say "Sure, search the car," you're fucked. You waived your rights, and they'll hang you with your consent.

Never consent to a search. You have little to gain and everything to lose if you do.

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5 Reasons You Should Never Agree to a Police Search (Even if You Have Nothing to Hide) [View all] xchrom Feb 2012 OP

police are not your friend nt msongs Feb 2012 #1

Essential Reading Censor-Ready Feb 2012 #31

Thanks for bringing up this topic again - it can't be stressed enough. Morning Dew Feb 2012 #2

great video -- but omg that guy talks fast. nt xchrom Feb 2012 #9

valuable information shanti Feb 2012 #27

When cops dont care, it is moot what your rights are, till court, if you are lucky. WingDinger Feb 2012 #3

It's court that refusing a search is for. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #20

Reality Check: the operative phra$e i$ "lawyer up" 99th_Monkey Feb 2012 #32

BTDT Zalatix Feb 2012 #33

It would be a better world if we were all seeking peace & justice. DirkGently Feb 2012 #4

I was stopped one time by a highway patrol officer. Lint Head Feb 2012 #5

It works if the cop doesnt search. Not so well if he does. WingDinger Feb 2012 #13

If he does, but you refused... they can't use the evidence in court. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #19

They can get around that. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #34

If you give permission to search, you waive your rights and you're screwed. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #46

Just tell them you (or your parents) belong to the ACLU, and you know your rights mainer Feb 2012 #6

Thanks for this! Good to know! peacebird Feb 2012 #21

thanks.....bookmarked........ dhill926 Feb 2012 #7

6. They can plant fake "evidence". Odin2005 Feb 2012 #8

Not only that, they can get their dogs to signal on anything. YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #39

The dogs are the big one in Virginia. sofa king Feb 2012 #42

They walk the dog around the exterior of the car. YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #48

Interesting! sofa king Feb 2012 #49

If you are asked to leave your car by a cop, take your keys, shut the door & make sure it is locked! YellowRubberDuckie Feb 2012 #50

Number one isn't really accurate surfdog Feb 2012 #10

Then I tell them to pull my finger RoccoR5955 Feb 2012 #11

LOL--really? BlueIris Feb 2012 #36

Words I have made my daughter parrot back to me ad infinitum. lapislzi Feb 2012 #12

This happened to a friend of mine. An anonymous tip to the police claimed that she Arkansas Granny Feb 2012 #14

Was that in Arkansas? Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #22

Yes, it was in Arkansas. We used to be able to shop for paraphernalia way back when. Arkansas Granny Feb 2012 #24

That is so screwed up Art_from_Ark Feb 2012 #30

There's always, "Dude, I really need to pee." HopeHoops Feb 2012 #15

Absolutely priceless advice! Everyone COLGATE4 Feb 2012 #16

When I asked the cops to stop neighbors from trespassing on my rooftop, the 'cops' were my friends. closeupready Feb 2012 #17

Reason #2 is the most important of all. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #18

Wong Sun etal. versus the United States. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2012 #29

The War on Drugs has destroyed the 4th amendment. LetTimmySmoke Feb 2012 #23

I wish I could rec this more than once. REP Feb 2012 #25

They'll trick you with hypothetical sounding questions. JNathanK Feb 2012 #26

What do cops care about anyone's rights. Bunch of dumb ass thugs. 1620rock Feb 2012 #28

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You forgot to mention RoccoR5955 Feb 2012 #38

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K&R truebrit71 Feb 2012 #37

k&r Hotler Feb 2012 #40

"I smell pot" = probable cause LiberalAndProud Feb 2012 #43

Shaky probable cause. Some judges have ruled that's not good enough. backscatter712 Feb 2012 #47

I get to DISAGREE???? AlbertCat Feb 2012 #44

Music to my ears. n/t DefenseLawyer Feb 2012 #45

Another good piece of advice: if you're going to break the law, don't break the law. lapislzi Feb 2012 #51