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15. How is the 'left' helping to do anything about this? The 'left' didn't choose Clapper,

Fri Aug 16, 2013, 10:37 PM

Aug 2013

first to be the Director of Intelligence. This leftie would have chosen a Democrat eg. The 'left' didn't appoint Clapper to oversee the choosing of the 'Independent' committee to begin looking into all of this.

This leftie would have chosen Ron Wyden or some other Democrat.

It's getting ridiculous to try to keep blaming other people for decisions this President makes.

Do YOU agree with all the Republicans he has placed in positions of power in his Cabinet? If we wanted Republicans in positions of power, we would have voted for them. We didn't.

This leftie would have chosen a Democrat for SOD eg. I have faith that we have Democrats who could fill these rolls.

Right wingers have pointed out to me that this President 'knows that Democrats can't take care of our Security so even he has to turn to Republicans'. Do you know how it feels to have fought agaisnt this meme for over a decade and then have to try to defend these decisions?

I don't defend them anymore, because I can't.

WE are being undermined, not the President.

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Wow. With all these NSA revelations rolling in Obama's legacy may not be Obamacare. [View all] Kablooie Aug 2013 OP

You're right, Kablooie. Th1onein Aug 2013 #1

"He'd better start reconsidering his opinion of Snowden pretty soon" ProSense Aug 2013 #2

Those on the right would surely love to see this be Obama's legacy... NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #10

How is the 'left' helping to do anything about this? The 'left' didn't choose Clapper, sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #15

That is a RWing talking point, ask them and they have no answer. Rex Aug 2013 #25

well said and so true! bbgrunt Aug 2013 #78

I wish Obama would stop "helping" so much. last1standing Aug 2013 #61

He does not need our help. He is doing a great job of messing this up on his own. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #83

They can't help it. It's an obsession or maybe possession? Fringe Aug 2013 #94

If he tries to cover up the spying and doesn't do anything to correct it, it might. Kablooie Aug 2013 #21

it will have a much bigger impact than you think nebenaube Aug 2013 #37

Those actions which took place under his presidency will actually. Fearless Aug 2013 #68

Indeed? Savannahmann Aug 2013 #76

Excellent post Aerows Aug 2013 #84

Exactly. Fringe Aug 2013 #91

This WILL be his legacy, 1awake Aug 2013 #3

He has a narrowing window to claim these were left over programs from Bush DJ13 Aug 2013 #4

Only in a reality-deprived bubble. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #5

It depends on his responses to the ongoing NSA revelations. Kablooie Aug 2013 #22

for fudr yes, without 15th the 4th is useless uponit7771 Aug 2013 #66

A couple of points.. Fumesucker Aug 2013 #6

+ a brazillion! FirstLight Aug 2013 #33

history is written by those who win. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #79

Here's how I see it so far: ucrdem Aug 2013 #7

Reality said to say hi LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #12

Recommended for a DUzy award DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #16

Damn, you beat me to it. tavalon Aug 2013 #35

I like my side of the pond I guess. . . ucrdem Aug 2013 #19

Reality called back and said the original call was for you. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #31

Wow, you need to try again LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #93

Duzy! n/t Aerows Aug 2013 #86

Transparency as clear as a mudbath... uh huh. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #26

How many E.O. 12333 quarterly compliance audits did the Bush-Cheney NSA conduct, ucrdem Aug 2013 #30

Transparency... leak. Transparency... leak. Transparency... leak. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #34

The point is that the "leaks" keep showing the thing running according to specifications. ucrdem Aug 2013 #36

Due diligence!? tavalon Aug 2013 #40

I laughed myself when I saw the report. ucrdem Aug 2013 #44

Yeah, funny that, eh? tavalon Aug 2013 #38

The only fix is to stop. nebenaube Aug 2013 #41

I don't have a problem with that. ucrdem Aug 2013 #46

Holy crap! SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #56

FUCK FACTS!! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #67

Or he could fix it. progressoid Aug 2013 #8

OR he could turn it into a campaign issue in the midterm.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #62

I think that's why we're seeing the President doing stupid things and losing his famous cool Hydra Aug 2013 #9

I could not agree more with you. MuseRider Aug 2013 #13

Instead of focussing on catching Snowden he'd better start controlling this damn NSA. Kablooie Aug 2013 #23

Agree 100% truebluegreen Aug 2013 #11

This place has almost lost its collective mind. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #14

If you don't think these ongoing stories are hurting Obama, you're not seeing things clearly. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #17

It's funny because Obamacare was going to be his legacy before this, and ProSense Aug 2013 #18

LOL SunSeeker Aug 2013 #59

Nope, sorry Hydra Aug 2013 #20

The best thing about this place is we never had a collective or hive mind tavalon Aug 2013 #43

You wish. Poor little things. Cha Aug 2013 #24

Oh bullshit. Zoeisright Aug 2013 #27

Thanks for putting THAT picture in my head! Just Saying Aug 2013 #32

I do not wring my pantry. All the cans would fall on the floor. Kablooie Aug 2013 #39

LOL nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #85

His legacy... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #28

The Founders did NOT contemplate a president maintaining a "kill list" in absence of declared war! Divernan Aug 2013 #50

I don't think ANYONE has contemplated an American President... Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #55

Nonsense. Nixon made his own problems, Obama inherited a disaster. Dawson Leery Aug 2013 #29

He needs to fix it, yes. That's the solution. I hope he does. Kablooie Aug 2013 #42

And at this point in time he is embracing it. nebenaube Aug 2013 #45

The clock is ticking. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #77

Oh please. If the RW could impeach with this, it'd be done before you could say CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #47

welcome to iggy land. nebenaube Aug 2013 #48

Another one, eh? CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #71

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and I join you Divernan Aug 2013 #73

His Legacy? mick063 Aug 2013 #49

... SammyWinstonJack Aug 2013 #57

It ain't over by a long-shot. DeSwiss Aug 2013 #51

It's just starting, but he better get a grip on this fast. One way or another. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #52

I know it's hard to tell if you're a regular here, Just Saying Aug 2013 #53

Just wait until someone's sexy emails are released. Kablooie Aug 2013 #63

Exactly, the most I've see anybody talk about/ obsess about it is here on du. Fringe Aug 2013 #95

A president can have a legacy with multiple aspects. quakerboy Aug 2013 #54

Uh, Obama is no FDR. He has quite a small group of items as legacy choices. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #58

Obama is better, Obama never had a 83% dem congress at any time like FDR... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #70

What's a fudr? Aerows Aug 2013 #87

Truth told quakerboy Aug 2013 #88

Too true. LBJ had The Great Society. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #69

Actually, Nixon wanted to be remembered for battling cancer. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #60

Obama must be aware creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #64

FDR ThoughtCriminal Aug 2013 #65

The only reason he is remembered at all is because Obama brought him up in so many speeches liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #72

I'd wager most adults ThoughtCriminal Aug 2013 #74

The NSA hopes that you are right. And I'll bet that if you asked high school seniors ... spin Aug 2013 #80

If Truman had expanded, rationalized and defended the internment camps... lumberjack_jeff Aug 2013 #75

He has rolled back NSA since Bush. Bush was engaging in warrantless wiretapping pnwmom Aug 2013 #81

Some people are fuck sticks Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #82

This tread needs more... NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #89

I think Obama will go down in history as a Fringe Aug 2013 #90

The "Right" is hard at work trying to entrap Obama on this issue. Snowden is their main operative Coyotl Aug 2013 #92