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freshwest

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13. It's national. We've fought them here, too. It's exhausting. And the legislators they convince at
Sat Aug 17, 2013, 01:46 AM
Aug 2013
these meetings.

And it's not just ALEC meetings, but at school boards, zoning and other municipal meetings as well as churches. They meet all year around and develop ties that profit some of them.

Go into the legislature to oppose their bills and find a solid wall, rude, dismissive and hostile to Democrats. I've seen dirty business done, outrageous things. To me they are fascists in the way they demand things. There is no reasoning with them.

Oppose them, and they will stop at nothing to shut you up. That's why I get so mad at fighting over stuff that doesn't change anything. As far as the article saying it would be hard to amend the Constitution - that is exactly what Ryan said they would do when they get enough red state legislatures.

It's not illegal. It's the way the thing is set up. The ERA did not pass because there were states whose legislatures did not want it and that power is in the states.

They intend to repeal the 14th and others. I've told people tthese guys are playing for keeps. That a defeatist attitude is not the way to get people to change things or resist this. One says they want people to listen and vote a certain way, for liberal causes. We only have one party to act on that.

I use the analogy of selling a car. If we tell people daily that our top of the line, PBO and all we did or tried, sucks, why would anyone listen to us when we tell them to vote for us?

It'd be like saying, 'Look how fine a model this is, but it doesn't run, is going to cost you a ton of money and you'll get nothing.' Who would buy that?

But the RW are the PR experts, they really do believe that they have something great. Just not for you, but they won't tell you that.

Whatever they can steal from the Commons, is gone for good and will never return. That is why they push privatization. While people fight over things farther away and less personal, the very ground under our feet is being stolen.

It's frightening.

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I think this is the most important information of the week. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #1
I totally agree. We're feeling the effects of it here in NC. octoberlib Aug 2013 #3
As are we in Costa Mesa. Our mayor is bullying everyone he possibly can with no concern. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #11
+1 n/t jaysunb Aug 2013 #15
It's national. We've fought them here, too. It's exhausting. And the legislators they convince at freshwest Aug 2013 #13
It bothers me when I see articles or posts saying the Republican party is finished. octoberlib Aug 2013 #16
Scary. We better all stick together if we want to stop ALEC. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #2
Oh, definitely. octoberlib Aug 2013 #4
if a republican ran as a republican and governed like a democrat he/she would be blacklisted. the msongs Aug 2013 #5
This too. Progressive think tanks can't compete because octoberlib Aug 2013 #7
piling on the money is part of the problem. Democrats are accepting too much money. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #14
Campaign finance reform. octoberlib Aug 2013 #18
And the NSA will be the way to squash any resistance nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #6
This worries me. The Chief Information Officer for NC octoberlib Aug 2013 #8
Yup. The connections are increasingly clearer nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #9
Just want to repeat that for emphasis: snot Aug 2013 #10
+1 octoberlib Aug 2013 #12
And that's why I treat any and all elections as my post office treats my mailbox. AppetiteForApathy Aug 2013 #17
I wish all Americans thought like this. nt octoberlib Aug 2013 #19
I posted this link on my facebook page and considered the "promote" click. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2013 #20
Thank you Chris, for being our eyes and ears, and for all you do! Scuba Aug 2013 #21
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