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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald's Article On NSA Snooping Actually Snooped On Everyone Who Clicked [View all]Th1onein
(8,514 posts)And, quite frankly, I'm getting tired of the same old arguments, rinse, repeat, and retried, over and over and over again. Are you saying that there is no proof of the SOD (Special Operations Division) or that they don't get information from the other alphabet agencies, or that they don't hide it's origin? Think again: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805 and http://www.forbes.com/sites/jennifergranick/2013/08/14/nsa-dea-irs-lie-about-fact-that-americans-are-routinely-spied-on-by-our-government-time-for-a-special-prosecutor-2/
And this isn't Snowden's stuff. It's coming from other sources. IS EVERYBODY LYING and Obama and Clapper are the only ones telling the truth? GET REAL.
If this is what is motivating you: "The privacy boogyman is more important than all else, jobs, fair pay, environment and climate change, Fukishima, all of this is on the side dish because of this nonsense." Then, you are full of shit. Because that's not true.
But, let's say, it was, for the sake of argument. Do you not believe in the Fourth Amendment? Do you not think that it is very important, and even central, in some cases, to just about every other mechanism of democracy that we hold dear? If you don't, sir, then you are truly mistaken, and I pity you. We will not have a democracy left to us if the situation continues, unabated, and if another Republican like Bush gets into office. You might as well kiss your country goodbye.