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pnwmom

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32. You shouldn't add to the chain of false information

Sat Aug 17, 2013, 05:21 PM

Aug 2013

by broadcasting claims that you now know aren't true.

I fully support an active debate about NSA surveillance and reining them in. However, engaging in hyperbole and exaggeration weakens the cause; it doesn't strengthen it.

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ACLU: Who are the watchers? At least 5,000 are alleged child pornographers, report finds [View all] Catherina Aug 2013 OP

Yikes. The Hall Monitors have ... DirkGently Aug 2013 #1

This is disturbing on so many levels Catherina Aug 2013 #3

Indeed. Many many levels. n/t hootinholler Aug 2013 #4

I'm still amazed people have no idea how easy or prevalent this is laundry_queen Aug 2013 #14

THIS is a very serious problem, but it has nothing to do with the NSA pnwmom Aug 2013 #17

as far as we know questionseverything Aug 2013 #36

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #20

This sort of thing has been going on for a while. Here is a related story from 2010. xocet Aug 2013 #23

Dozens of the hall monitors have been implicated -- which is bad enough. pnwmom Aug 2013 #8

Rules are for the proles. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #2

Would you please change your title? There were dozens involved, not 5,000. pnwmom Aug 2013 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Aug 2013 #12

I'm going to leave it with the original title but you bring up a different good point. Catherina Aug 2013 #28

Your title is wrong because it falsely implies that all 5000 are FBI, CIA, NSA, pnwmom Aug 2013 #29

You should contact the ACLU directly. Maybe they'll be able to straighten it all out for you. n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #31

You shouldn't add to the chain of false information pnwmom Aug 2013 #32

Like I said, contact the ACLU. You seem confused about the various operations Catherina Aug 2013 #33

Nothing you cited says it was more than dozens. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #34

WTF?! bunnies Aug 2013 #6

Out of 5,000 people who had downloaded child porn, "dozens" turned out to be security people. pnwmom Aug 2013 #7

phew. ok. bunnies Aug 2013 #10

The ACLU person who sent the original twitter obviously didn't either. pnwmom Aug 2013 #11

Good heavens. Triana Aug 2013 #9

Can Your Data Be Safe When The Watchers Partake Of Child Pornography cantbeserious Aug 2013 #13

Certainly not if the data consists of child pornography. pnwmom Aug 2013 #15

USA! USA! USA! :sarcasm: in case it's needed - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #16

Another problem is that porn sites East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #18

Presumably the dozens of "watchers" (not 5,000) were watching from home computers, pnwmom Aug 2013 #19

The OP says it was done on work computers as well. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #21

You're right. Thank you for pointing that out. I was fixated on the words pnwmom Aug 2013 #22

Evil goes without saying. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #24

I used to be sysadmin on defense contractor networks. bemildred Aug 2013 #25

Besides the repulsive, evil creepiness of child pornography, tblue37 Aug 2013 #26

You cannot privatize national security malaise Aug 2013 #27

Exactly, but they have. And there's big money in the 'security' business. And I think that is the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #30

Very well said malaise Aug 2013 #35

I support your view marions ghost Aug 2013 #41

Yeah following the 'disaster capitalism' model of governing Rex Aug 2013 #37

I know malaise Aug 2013 #38

Au contraire, mon ami. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #40

You may want to edit thread title for clarity TransitJohn Aug 2013 #39

"suspects also put the Defense Department "at risk of blackmail, bribery, and threats," Zorra Aug 2013 #42