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In reply to the discussion: Strange how the same people running around calling everyone Authoritarians [View all]KharmaTrain
(31,706 posts)...and little fact. That's the problem with those who want to believe the worst and will find excuses rather than demand accountability from those who have the information or can get it. Senator Wyden and other members of Congress hold the power to expose abuses...they also have the credibility. Snowden serves zero purpose as he sits thousands of miles away and I have yet to see any of his charges substantiated...such as the NSA is listening and recording EVERY phone call and watching every keystroke. Let's prove it...bring it forward...not try to sell books and newpaper and website hits with it. Let's get it all in the open. Not speculation...not what if...let's get fact and then demand accountability. I don't think that's too hard to do.
While it's a great dream to think we can destroy the MIC...close the CIA and NSA...that's not going to happen. What can happen is to keep them in check and demand the passage of laws to do so. There had been laws in place that were wiped away with the revisions of FISA in 2007...those "revelations" from Mr. Snowden were far from new to those of us who were trying to fight its passage. Now its time to get evidence...not conjecture...put it out for all to see and demand those who set up these secret courts to open them up and to define where our privacy rights exist.
I've lived my entire adult life always with the understanding that anything that goes on outside my four walls is or can be monitored. Be it a security camera to having my purchases tracked to having the phone company compile metadata on my calls. The issue is how much privacy can we expect in a world where so much of our information is harvested by third parties...