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JDPriestly

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103. Do you know who Bruce Fein is?
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 04:38 AM
Aug 2013

Bruce Fein is a lawyer in the United States who specializes in constitutional and international law. Fein has written numerous articles on constitutional issues for The Washington Times, Slate.com, The New York Times, Legal Times, and is active on the issues of civil liberties. He has also worked for the American Enterprise Institute and the Heritage Foundation, both conservative think tanks, as an analyst and commentator.[1]

Fein is a principal in a government affairs and public relations firm, The Lichfield Group, in Washington, D.C..[2] He is also a resident scholar at the Turkish Coalition of America.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Fein

Do you suppose that maybe Snowden's dad means well in choosing Bruce Fein as his lawyer but that Snowden may view things differently? Bruce Fein may or may not be too conservative for Snowden.

Let's not worry about the differences between Snowden's friends and those of his parents. The Snowden family will work it out. I have no doubt that Snowden's dad will denounce Wikileaks and friends. They may feel that denouncing Wikileaks and embarrassing Assange, etc., will help Snowden safely return to the US.

In fact, maybe Snowden came out with his revelations as a way to embarrass Wikileaks. We will find out. That does not change the fact that what the NSA has been doing in collecting metadata, huge amounts of metadata on American citizens gives a small clique in the executive branch of the government access to secret information not only about American citizens and foreign policy issues but also about members of the press and the other branches of government. In addition, it will inevitably mean that people think twice about who they contact, what news media they read, etc. That chills not only speech and association rights but also creativity and discovery and the sharing of ideas.

The NSA program, no matter what Snowden's situation a) is a huge threat to the separation of powers, the co-equality of our three branches of government, as set forth in the Constitution and thus to our constitutional form of government and b) chills speech because it will and probably is causing some people, scholars hoping for new jobs, lawyers, teachers, scientists, journalists and just you to stop and think before we do an internet search or respond even on DU.

I'm retired. I don't have to worry about my career. Maybe you are still working and have to defend the government just to appear loyal and insure your job. I have no idea. But somewhere, some time, probably this week, at least one person will hesitate to read something, write something, study something, learn something, talk to someone, ask a question, answer a question, and all because of the knowledge of the NSA spying. No one really knows just exactly what the NSA is doing.

Of course, the government would love to see Wikileaks belittled and embarrassed. Even though people want Wikileaks to be treated fairly, the furor is not about Wikileaks or Snowden as a person. It is about the fact that the NSA has gone too far.

Watch the Bill Moyers video i have been posting to. It is available on DU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Fein

Again, I give that link. It puts the threat that the NSA is posing to our democracy in a historical perspective. The excessive secrecy is incompatible with our free economy and our freedom within our country. It is incompatible with our constitutional form of government. It is unAmerican. It has to stop.

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Chupacabras and Nazi Hell Creatures MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #1
Kudos for your speed reading Manny! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #2
Do you read your own material? You're saying that Snowden is being "handled" by his parents and leveymg Aug 2013 #28
Try reading ALL the links.... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #31
Your links go all over the place and so do your unfocused accusations. Tie it together in a lead leveymg Aug 2013 #33
Sorry leveymg... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #37
Try watching this video. It is way back from the Iran-Contra era. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #100
Yes, Yes, and Yes again (plus a big thank you for all you do) nolabels Aug 2013 #113
On second thought: your post is pure, unfocused innuendo, and the links are just someone's opinion. leveymg Aug 2013 #123
Well Reasoned Levey. N/T fasttense Aug 2013 #111
Some of this has already been posted today Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #53
You are only allowed to post so much? HangOnKids Aug 2013 #55
Aaaah, checking up on me... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #58
Gee you are so cute! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #59
I agree, I am cute~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #60
No darlin' I have a ton more NONE of which you are worthy of HangOnKids Aug 2013 #63
Oh darlin' sheshe2 Aug 2013 #69
Below the Mendoza Line HangOnKids Aug 2013 #70
C'mon Binka, show us what you got... SidDithers Aug 2013 #83
zap Hekate Aug 2013 #109
"Try reading ALL the links" NealK Aug 2013 #115
No, it doesn't say that--it says that Snowden's father and the Feins are concerned about who is MADem Aug 2013 #82
Do you know who Bruce Fein is? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #103
Yes, I understand who Bruce Fein is, and I've kept up with what he and his wife have said. MADem Aug 2013 #107
Genetic. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #30
IMHO sheshe2 Aug 2013 #40
Who Snowden is, who is handling him, doesn't mean anything. It and they aren't JDPriestly Aug 2013 #98
There are also aliens in area 51 :rolleyes: ~ white spying on everyone hyperbole bullshit uponit7771 Aug 2013 #7
The 'White House' is spying now? randome Aug 2013 #10
Yeap, Obama has a room like Doc Xavier on X men and you know...he reads peoples minds uponit7771 Aug 2013 #12
Cerebro! randome Aug 2013 #13
lol uponit7771 Aug 2013 #14
you mad, celebro? Whisp Aug 2013 #36
LOL! Whisp Aug 2013 #17
Who does the NSA report to? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #21
I don't know the answer to that question. Is it the President? randome Aug 2013 #24
They report to Congress. That's where they get their money. MADem Aug 2013 #88
Feinstein? She admitted she did not have all the information she should have had. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #105
I didn't say a word about Feinstein. She's the Chair of Intel, sure. MADem Aug 2013 #110
Congress. They are required to report to them, and the intel committees have oversight over them. MADem Aug 2013 #86
I don't understand the mocking tone. Marr Aug 2013 #23
So? Does that mean Obama is 'spying on all Americans'? randome Aug 2013 #25
Well said randome. nt sheshe2 Aug 2013 #27
I am concerned by what JDPriestly Aug 2013 #106
Booz-Allen does NOT have access to personal data. randome Aug 2013 #114
So true on the safe gaurds but as GG as proved it doesn't matter they wont believe them ANYWAY uponit7771 Aug 2013 #118
Isn't Bernstein a Hillary supporter? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #127
I'm MORE concerned that cameras on the street can see into my car! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #117
AMEN!! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #116
This message was self-deleted by its author MADem Aug 2013 #91
It's "under the Executive" like Veteran's Affairs is.... MADem Aug 2013 #121
The Executive Branch, headed by the WH is, yes. morningfog Aug 2013 #29
I doubt that. Unless you equate metadata with 'spying'. randome Aug 2013 #32
Is the NSA part of the Executive Branch? morningfog Aug 2013 #35
NSA is bifurcated, even trifurcated. They're under DOD, they report to DNI, they MADem Aug 2013 #94
Is the Dept. of Defense part of the Executive Branch? morningfog Aug 2013 #124
Of course it is, but it has a number of reporting relationships, AND oversight relationships. MADem Aug 2013 #125
Your condescending tone in every one of your posts is really not constructive. morningfog Aug 2013 #126
Well, you're reading a "tone" that is in your own head. My feelings aren't at all hurt that you're MADem Aug 2013 #128
Manny, you are my hero. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #52
Then you should get out more MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #57
and gossip shouldn't distract from that yurbud Aug 2013 #67
Ah, a conspiracy theory. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #3
Ah, no. nt sheshe2 Aug 2013 #4
Sure, they're conspiring to control the web, thats what it says. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #5
It's not a CT theory. nt sheshe2 Aug 2013 #8
You disagree with what you posted? nt bemildred Aug 2013 #11
That's the only way for them to make sense of it burnodo Aug 2013 #15
No. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #16
It's a theory about a conspiracy to control the web. bemildred Aug 2013 #18
Five minutes in and I am still laughing at THIS POST...beautiful! HangOnKids Aug 2013 #61
My pleasure. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #122
They are fuck ups too, Greenwald is a joke and FAUX news hearts Snowden now. Along with the GOP... uponit7771 Aug 2013 #6
K&R, good find, sheshe. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #9
Oy... nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #19
K&R BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #20
you expect to be taken seriously... grasswire Aug 2013 #22
You mock her... sheshe2 Aug 2013 #26
this actually explains a lot grasswire Aug 2013 #39
Read her BLOG! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #43
Sorry, but there is no credibility there. grasswire Aug 2013 #47
Sorry.............wrong! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #50
EXACTLY!! I saw how FAUX news hearts SnowGlen now and I'm disgusted they're mentioned here uponit7771 Aug 2013 #119
Their blatant MO is to try and tear down the messenger Cha Aug 2013 #42
Good to see you Cha! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #44
The irony of your post eludes you. rug Aug 2013 #62
My bad.. I didn't realize you thought greenwald, assange, and snowden being Cha Aug 2013 #64
Allow me to refocus you. rug Aug 2013 #66
Almost every link posted from this blog has dissed Snowden or Greenwald. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #54
Please proceed, Mr. Grasswire. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #38
Whisp~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #45
Actually, as blogs go, it's not bad at all--it's a blog, after all, one person's opinion. MADem Aug 2013 #96
why is this obscure and anonymous blogger so important to you Boggers? grasswire Aug 2013 #101
???? I'm not sure how to take your comment--why are you getting MADem Aug 2013 #104
IMO, the question would also be "Who is he working for or who is paying him" AlinPA Aug 2013 #34
Props to smartypants, she! Cha Aug 2013 #41
GAS! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #46
I stole it.. Cha Aug 2013 #48
this will upset the apologist\cultist\cheerleader\ worshippers of sweet co-bebe jeebus snow-wald dionysus Aug 2013 #49
Snort~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #56
You mean the anti-authoritarians! Cha Aug 2013 #75
BE AFRAID!!!!!! BE VERY AFRAID!!!!!!1!1!111!1111 last1standing Aug 2013 #51
I did follow your links but when I got here, I could go no further. rug Aug 2013 #65
POST 43~ Read it. sheshe2 Aug 2013 #71
Oh, I already read her "About Me". rug Aug 2013 #72
You and I both know that you sheshe2 Aug 2013 #73
Actually their body language suggests the tag team in this thread. rug Aug 2013 #74
Really? sheshe2 Aug 2013 #76
I picture you more on the left typing this OP. rug Aug 2013 #78
Here's a thought. Maybe Snowden is "handling" himself and choosing his own advisers. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #68
Yawn. snappyturtle Aug 2013 #77
I like being able to see who recommends this kind of garbage. n/t ronnie624 Aug 2013 #79
Classic HangOnKids Aug 2013 #80
I didn't realize you were so smitten by the Smartypants blog. ronnie624 Aug 2013 #90
Smartypants is what I call my kids HangOnKids Aug 2013 #92
Smartypants is the blog the OP uses as a source. ronnie624 Aug 2013 #95
Smartypants is way too intelligent not to see what's going on with Greenwald, Cha Aug 2013 #81
Thank you Cha! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #87
do`t feel bad... madrchsod Aug 2013 #84
Mahalo for your post, madrchsod nm Cha Aug 2013 #89
DU rec...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #85
Looks like you have a future with a Murdock news outlet... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #93
The newspaper in Hong Kong that did the extensive interview with Snowden is partly owned by Murdoch. MADem Aug 2013 #97
... Rex Aug 2013 #99
So who are these people handling Obama? villager Aug 2013 #102
Truth: "to act as if (the US) is no different than the surveillance states of Russia and China" Hekate Aug 2013 #108
Creative Speculation, at best. Democracyinkind Aug 2013 #112
How dare you? NealK Aug 2013 #120
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