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LuvNewcastle

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22. The Democrats made a fundamental mistake when they focused
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 11:03 AM
Aug 2013

their efforts on health insurance after the 2008 elections. Obama's slogan was "Change," which is exactly what the people wanted and why they voted for him. They wanted things changed right then, not several years later. They should have focused on changes that would show results right away, like a jobs bill. They also should have passed a much larger stimulus bill.

Immediate change would have built up support for other things that would have taken longer to take effect. The entire negotiating process of the ACA could have been much different if the Democrats had built up support from the public as a result of successful programs already seeing results.

The Democrats made a terrible error when they chose to go the route they did after the 2008 election, and it might be a long time before we have another chance like that to build grassroots support for the Democratic Party.

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I am all about 2014 first PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Adam051188 Aug 2013 #45
First on my priority list: Le Taz Hot Aug 2013 #2
I can't see anyone willing to take on Hillary... polichick Aug 2013 #3
The country wants the Clinton type. I want the LBJ type. Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #4
How I wish that would happen. Nt newfie11 Aug 2013 #7
I think we need the LBJ type. Nice isn't working. Ass needs to be kicked! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #37
I think done the right way it would be celebrated Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #46
Qualities? 1awake Aug 2013 #5
A backbone and some leadership qualities. n/t doc03 Aug 2013 #6
Truthfulness would be nice Fumesucker Aug 2013 #8
FDR was fundamentally truthful, no? MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #9
Elected again I suppose I should have said Fumesucker Aug 2013 #13
FDR was elected again (and again) because he got results MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #16
FDR got results because he publicly and correctly identified the problems to start with, honesty Fumesucker Aug 2013 #17
Well, Sen. Warren sure doesn't seem to *worry* about the 1%'s hate. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #21
Indeed Fumesucker Aug 2013 #23
The Democrats made a fundamental mistake when they focused LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #22
I think you're right MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #30
Didn't the war having something to do with that though? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #28
FDR's first term was 1932-1936. MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #31
I'll buy that Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #34
If the corporate media considers them one of the only "viable candidates" Marr Aug 2013 #10
1. Honest MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #11
A first name of Dennis and a last name of Kucinich. flvegan Aug 2013 #12
How about a willingness to stand up to the 1%? NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #14
woot. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #44
Are their any candidates that aren't 1%ers Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #49
I don't think she earns enough. It takes about $400,000/year to strart. NYC_SKP Aug 2013 #51
Yeah, but she's got a pretty stout portfolio Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #54
The maximum quality (good choice of words, as opposed to qualification) is ability to WIN UTUSN Aug 2013 #15
Someone you'd like to have a beer with, yeah? Fumesucker Aug 2013 #18
Neh. I wouldn't want to have a beer with just about any of them, especially the beer dude/Shrub UTUSN Aug 2013 #27
Addendum: Might as well pin some names to start the election NOW: Start with Tom BERGERON then UTUSN Aug 2013 #35
Meh, I still think the best President would have to be forced into office at gunpoint Fumesucker Aug 2013 #36
The best thing he has done is keep a life in office CLEAN from distracting scandals UTUSN Aug 2013 #38
This... SidDithers Aug 2013 #52
The next President candidate needs to brash, in your face, and a bully in order to have a chance. CK_John Aug 2013 #19
More Billy Jack than bully n/t Fumesucker Aug 2013 #24
Congress is the key. bemildred Aug 2013 #20
True, the voters forge the key and the President wields it n/t Fumesucker Aug 2013 #25
Yep. kentuck Aug 2013 #29
you sort of answered your own question BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #26
It's the local and state that must be changed or it won't matter who is president. Sunlei Aug 2013 #32
We will never get this person but I would like to see Bunnahabhain Aug 2013 #33
Give me a god-damned fighter, LWolf Aug 2013 #39
Sounds a lot like Elizabeth Warren to me ... 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #41
I'll take ANY fighter LWolf Aug 2013 #42
exactly LWolf. I'm with you. I want a fighter too. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #53
Fuck a bunch of Clinton types, we need an FDR with the balls of a Johnson. 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #40
FDR was FDR without an 83% congress?! This is where the Obama bashers lose credibilty in droves uponit7771 Aug 2013 #48
I would admire FDR even if he hadn't been able to accomplish what he accomplished, because at least liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #56
false on its face! they had to drag fdr to admitting the issus with jews! uponit7771 Aug 2013 #58
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If you're looking for one that would please the purist left? Look for a dictator, the purist left uponit7771 Aug 2013 #47
I want a President to say what FDR did. "I welcome their hate." and then back it up with action. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #50
I think the 3 qualities I value most are intelligence, compassion and humility in equal HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #55
A vagina... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #57
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