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In reply to the discussion: Are those who defend President Obama's every single move, sincere? [View all]Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)Some are more reasonable. They can understand some reasonable complaints about President Obama's actions and will argue based on the topic at hand. That isn't so bad. It indicates a healthy state of mind. I can understand that and like to discuss topics with the ones who can be reasonable and level headed about it.
Others are like "Beliebers." They cannot stand even the mildest criticism of President Obama and will hound you relentlessly if you dare utter a difference of opinion. I think they really mean it, in a "Belieber" kind of way. Being THAT obsessed cannot possibly be a healthy state of mind. That kind of zealousness makes me think of those glassy eyed, brainwashed cult followers. It's sad and creepy.
There are the ones who hate on him relentlessly and the ones who are overzealous to defend him from even the slightest criticism. I tend to criticize when President Obama does something I disagree with and remember to mention when he does something I like too. Neither side seems to like that. I tend to take shit from every direction for it when I do pipe in and say something. I don't understand why others can see the good and the bad.
I strongly disagree with the NSA spying too, but I realize President Obama is not the first president, nor will he be the last, to authorize more of the spying. I think the reason I am not surprised by that is that I did not vote for him in the primaries in 2008. He was literally my last choice from the list of Democrats running at the time. I started out really wanting Kucinich, then went to Edwards after he was frozen out, then ended up with the choice between Obama and Clinton by the time our state voted. Yes, I voted for Hillary Clinton in the primaries in 2008. When you think about the order I chose, you realize I would much have preferred Kucinich...but we all know how he was shouted down and called everything from a Keebler elf to a total idiot.
I have finally come to the conclusion that whichever corporate endorsed candidate we end up with it going to do things like the NSA spying and Patriot Act crap. There are no heroes in a position of power anymore, because the powers that be, the ones that decide who has access to that position, want it that way. Even if we did end up with a candidate that left of the new center progressives really love, some right wing asshole(s) or CIA splinter cell would take them out anyhow. So, we are fucked no matter what.