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9. Obama, Clinton, Panetta, and Petraeus? Aren't they the ones who escalated the war?

Reply to limpyhobbler (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 06:25 PM

Feb 2012

Real peaceniks aren't they?

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AP IMPACT: study suggests drones kill far fewer civilians than many Pakistanis believe [View all] limpyhobbler Feb 2012 OP

One civilian killed is one too many. Cali_Democrat Feb 2012 #1

Civilians always die in war WonderGrunion Feb 2012 #20

That's one dead civilian for every four dead militants. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2012 #2

In World War II the ratio was 1 civilian for every 2 dead soldiers for the Axis powers Johnny Rico Feb 2012 #12

the very serious problem wth your analogy is that most of the civilians that were truedelphi Feb 2012 #25

How does that affect kill ratios and whether they are bad or good? You dont really explain that. nt stevenleser Feb 2012 #53

What? What? What? truedelphi Feb 2012 #64

How do they differentiate between dead militants and dead civilians? Incitatus Feb 2012 #3

You are asking how the people who lived there knew who was who?Because that is who provided the info stevenleser Feb 2012 #51

Wow, they're really reaching now, aren't they? gratuitous Feb 2012 #4

I have long called the AP truedelphi Feb 2012 #24

Speaking to the villagers where the attacks happened is reaching? stevenleser Feb 2012 #52

Those darn treaties! gratuitous Feb 2012 #62

Phew! That's a relief!! RufusTFirefly Feb 2012 #5

Not sure why people have a hard time believing there are some hardcore terrorist groups limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #6

So we should just continue to kill people, MadHound Feb 2012 #7

We should defend our country from fascist terrorists who are plotting to kill us. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #10

fascist terrorists?! frylock Feb 2012 #13

You don't agree? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #14

You're right - there's nothing funny about the Republican party. Nostradammit Feb 2012 #16

I do see the resemblance. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #22

Targeted assassinations that allow for the murder of innocents IS TERRORISM! Nostradammit Feb 2012 #33

OK so what would be a better way to approach the issue? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #35

Well, if we are to stay true to the original intent of the people who started this country Nostradammit Feb 2012 #37

All due respect to you, there is no such thing as war without civilian deaths. stevenleser Feb 2012 #58

Did Congress declare war on Pakistan? Nostradammit Feb 2012 #61

No, actually, in wartime, it is neither murder, nor terrorism. stevenleser Feb 2012 #60

Yes, maybe we should stop combatting terrorist groups in the region. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2012 #36

Sounds like we should be sending drones to hit the Catholic Bishops, then. MNBrewer Feb 2012 #21

clearly, i don't.. frylock Feb 2012 #43

This thread limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #48

You are going to get a very simplistic and superficial response if at all. stevenleser Feb 2012 #56

thanks limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #59

you're right. let's just continue to utilize the same costly and ineffective methods.. frylock Feb 2012 #63

USA-USA-USA MadHound Feb 2012 #40

I think I disagree with your position on drone strikes. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #45

Geez, where to start MadHound Feb 2012 #49

ok so... limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #50

Why are they trying to kill us? Hugabear Feb 2012 #66

Here are some reasons why limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #67

I really don't get why otherwise sensible people believe this horseshit eridani Mar 2012 #69

It's easy to understand if you think those terrorist groups pose a real threat. limpyhobbler Mar 2012 #71

If they wanted to violently spread religion-- eridani Mar 2012 #72

That is what they want. That's what they say and I believe them. limpyhobbler Mar 2012 #73

Our own 1% is the real threat to us, not religious whackjobs. eridani Mar 2012 #74

In one word, yes. bluestate10 Feb 2012 #28

Who are the savages? MadHound Feb 2012 #42

killing for peace.. frylock Feb 2012 #44

I guess that is sarcasm? limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #46

Obama, Clinton, Panetta, and Petraeus? Aren't they the ones who escalated the war? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #9

It's always easy to think the way you do if you truedelphi Feb 2012 #27

I appreciate your thoughtful response. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #29

When we're attacked, then we should wage war. truedelphi Feb 2012 #31

Yes! Nostradammit Feb 2012 #34

I love your user id name. truedelphi Feb 2012 #65

I knew you were going to say that. Nostradammit Mar 2012 #68

We were attacked by a multistate terror group on 9-11 why did you choose not to address that? stevenleser Feb 2012 #57

They can tell they're "militants" because they're dead. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #8

Apparently they asked the local people to find out. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #17

At that time, they also claimed to kill only insurgents. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #18

Well, that's a good point. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #26

It poses an insignifican "threat" to America, except that it's bankrupting us. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2012 #32

little evidence remains for this: quaker bill Mar 2012 #75

So it sounds like we need to take steps to change both reality and perception n/t DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #11

Except we can't. Igel Feb 2012 #15

Good read. (nt) Robb Feb 2012 #38

Yes, well said, and to extend your analogy, people here insist on superficial interpretations stevenleser Feb 2012 #55

Spinning the death machine. marmar Feb 2012 #19

Authorized Propaganda, spinning? Don't be so cynical. EFerrari Feb 2012 #23

These numbers are worse than what the Bureau of Investigative Journalism found. joshcryer Feb 2012 #30

It's interesting that some are reflexively attacking the article with no backup whatsoever stevenleser Feb 2012 #54

The real problem here fujiyama Feb 2012 #39

... woo me with science Feb 2012 #41

Oh f*ck me with a spoon. GeorgeGist Feb 2012 #47

In every person advocating for the "war" on terror, by whatever means-- eridani Mar 2012 #70