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backscatter712

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15. What we've got here is a failure to enforce ideological boundaries.

Reply to nadinbrzezinski (Original post)

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 02:46 PM

Aug 2013

Whatever happened to "Don't be a right winger?"

This is Democratic Underground.

Not Republican Underground, Authoritarian Underground or Fascist Underground.

Are not members of this site expected to hold left wing views?

Why is advocacy of the NSA's violation of our Fourth Amendment Rights tolerated here at all? Anyone spewing that line before Obama was elected was immediately tombstoned for espousing Bushie right-wing neocon talking points. And people spewing that shit should still be tombstoned today.

Why are McCarthyist-style smear tactics tolerated on this site? As the term McCarthyist suggests, that kind of attack is the kind that we'd expect from our right-wing opponents, not our own ranks. Why is it that calling people "Paulbots" doesn't result in PPRs?

We need some enforced ideological boundaries here. It's not censorship. It's providing a shared space for left-wingers. If you want to advocate turning this country into a Stasi-style police state, Free Republic is that way. I'm sure you'll find them more accommodating.

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Yup...the schism on DU is deepening [View all] nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 OP

They will "Bring It On" (see below) warrant46 Aug 2013 #1

you'd better make some room Phlem Aug 2013 #2

As some of my friends would say, "Not before time!" truebluegreen Aug 2013 #3

'centrists' or 'pragmatists' of the dem variety can go fuck themselves. xchrom Aug 2013 #4

Yes. LWolf Aug 2013 #5

While others screw everybody else. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #384

They believe they are part of the elite nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #9

I think they're to the right of Rockefeller. n/t dflprincess Aug 2013 #241

The bloody DLC DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #16

Who the fuck are those people.. busterbrown Aug 2013 #18

And Harold Ford YOHABLO Aug 2013 #287

Agreed!!!!!! newfie11 Aug 2013 #22

what about the Republicans treestar Aug 2013 #24

Republicans get a pass... SidDithers Aug 2013 #52

........ daleanime Aug 2013 #70

Straw man lark Aug 2013 #131

UNTIL THE GOP IS ELIMINATED AS A POLITICAL FORCE BEING ANTI DLC IS USELESS coldmountain Aug 2013 #146

Why are you shouting? lark Aug 2013 #153

THE WORLD WOULD BE A DIFFERENT PLACE IF WE WON 2010 OR 2000 coldmountain Aug 2013 #173

Are you using a teletype? lpbk2713 Aug 2013 #182

It must be freezing; greiner3 Aug 2013 #338

LOL! hueymahl Aug 2013 #341

... Javaman Aug 2013 #382

We did win in 2000 dflprincess Aug 2013 #242

Just as in 1994... DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #249

Psst lark Aug 2013 #375

Because apparently it is not being heard? treestar Aug 2013 #285

I agree with what you say Plucketeer Aug 2013 #358

ROFL RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #273

& nolabels Aug 2013 #332

A Hillary supporter, making excuses for the DLC, and blaming liberals for the election of 2000 loudsue Aug 2013 #355

So you say there's no difference between Gore and Bush? coldmountain Aug 2013 #380

No. You were blaming voters for the theft of the 2000 election. loudsue Aug 2013 #381

Who were all those people responding to Nadir saying there was no difference? coldmountain Aug 2013 #386

And that is why the GOP will NEVER be eliminated joeglow3 Aug 2013 #364

There is no difference between republican office holders and democratic office holders. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #191

Can't believe that on DU it goes unmolested treestar Aug 2013 #284

Precisely LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #366

They play the role of bad cop. zeemike Aug 2013 #150

How are we to fight Republican ideas Union Scribe Aug 2013 #200

There has never been one decent republican politician in political office in the last 70 years!! busterbrown Aug 2013 #294

Or the sane half of Richard Nixon's brain.. Volaris Aug 2013 #316

Ike was more liberal then than Obama is now, sad to say. N/T whathehell Aug 2013 #349

I'd guess for the most part because republicans are behaving like republicans rpannier Aug 2013 #321

Well said!! haikugal Aug 2013 #26

A-fucking-men. They're not true Democrats. We shouldn't tolerate them diluting our core values. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #36

SOME SAID THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BUSH AND DLC GORE coldmountain Aug 2013 #176

The people that were behind Nader despite the clear warning signs won't take responsibly bluestate10 Aug 2013 #206

or the dead Afghanis, Iraqis, Pakistanis or the deaths from global warming coldmountain Aug 2013 #240

The two minutes of hate... nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #304

You're making a false jimlup Aug 2013 #359

Would you make your current fight turning off your CapsLock key? NT DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #250

Bill Clinton started the DLC, and Hillary was in its leadership. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #37

Bill Clinton isn't a real Democrat arely staircase Aug 2013 #65

Bill Clinton is a moderate Republican. marble falls Aug 2013 #82

lol arely staircase Aug 2013 #85

For your further amusement. marble falls Aug 2013 #89

uh, ok arely staircase Aug 2013 #95

Here's an interesting one from the WaPo: marble falls Aug 2013 #107

omg, somebody had an opinion in 2011 arely staircase Aug 2013 #113

Because only a republican leftynyc Aug 2013 #328

Keep your personal attacks to yourself. Is your definition of stupid anyone who disagees with you?? marble falls Aug 2013 #357

Keep your lame arguments away from me leftynyc Aug 2013 #362

Read a little history. you might learn a couple of things. marble falls Aug 2013 #389

Mr. NAFTA +1 Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #342

Precisely. That is why I do not want Hillary Clinton to be our candidate in 2016. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #83

you Professional Democrats somehow think that is a positive... Agony Aug 2013 #179

Bill "started" the DLC?....the meltdown continues. bvar22 Aug 2013 #205

The DLC ProSense Aug 2013 #222

President Obama "ignored" the DLC? DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #252

AAnnnnd.....the Melt Down continues. bvar22 Aug 2013 #267

"President Barack Obama has ignored the DLC".... LIke THIS! bvar22 Aug 2013 #268

I am so glad you kept that screen shot dflprincess Aug 2013 #277

It has come in handy, bvar22 Aug 2013 #378

it's 2013, not 2009 Capn Sunshine Aug 2013 #310

Yes, DLC is defunct! Long live DLC policies! eridani Aug 2013 #311

Ouch Hekate Aug 2013 #313

Spoken like someone who lives outside the little DU bubble. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #323

I haven't found one, but I have noticed... TreasonousBastard Aug 2013 #336

Didn't know that about the Kerry person. Seems par for the course. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #353

Soooooooooo? Beacool Aug 2013 #280

seems to me it was the independents hfojvt Aug 2013 #39

DLC-type -- "moderate" -- so-called Democrats voted for all that stuff. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #87

actually they did NOT hfojvt Aug 2013 #322

The democratic version of the Tea-Party. RC Aug 2013 #72

+1 leftstreet Aug 2013 #74

I count no more than a handful but they are prolific posters Warpy Aug 2013 #77

Yeah, fuck those people who actually win national elections geek tragedy Aug 2013 #94

Oh oh ... that's going to go on your permanent record. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #105

If only the party returned to the days of losing elections by 300+ electoral votes, geek tragedy Aug 2013 #108

Well the DLC could make that happen zeemike Aug 2013 #164

When i contemplate the odious prospect of a contest between Hillary and a Santorum, Palin or Cruz, HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #203

Well I will probably do the same zeemike Aug 2013 #214

Amen to that. Put up the crazies and drop one beacon of hope filled propaganda. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #279

There weakness it their numbers zeemike Aug 2013 #288

Yes and voter fraud, disenfranchisement is on the top of their list. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #289

The DLC is defunct, nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #219

In name only DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #253

The lack of political instincts in this thread is staggering LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #368

lol well you have to have a lot of extra time to complain grantcart Aug 2013 #379

+1 theHandpuppet Aug 2013 #127

+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #134

Word. RedCappedBandit Aug 2013 #274

+ 1...I am so done with them. nt Zorra Aug 2013 #276

Oh heck yeah that's so true. tblue Aug 2013 #293

Shrink the tent! FrodosPet Aug 2013 #348

Nonsense. It's not a 'schism' when it's a handful of people leftstreet Aug 2013 #6

But but.... It's so much fun to promote infighting.... bettyellen Aug 2013 #20

You know Cryptoad Aug 2013 #32

I think there are lots of people who do, and its fucking boring. bettyellen Aug 2013 #45

There used to be such a forum. Skinner MineralMan Aug 2013 #67

We had that. It was called META. RC Aug 2013 #81

They are not truly gone... Hekate Aug 2013 #315

What exactly was Meta for? Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #370

I think your sig image perfectly encapsulates META! zappaman Aug 2013 #371

Gotcha, thanks for the explanation Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #374

If I was the GOP Cryptoad Aug 2013 #34

It's not "a few". Way to rationalize your position. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #309

I'm ready FirstLight Aug 2013 #7

It will take a little time nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #11

I think starting at the bottom, locally, is the way to go. alarimer Aug 2013 #139

i am the enemy of the arty BOG PERSON Aug 2013 #8

George Carlin - It's a big club and you (we) ain't in it RKP5637 Aug 2013 #10

You left out pointy headed and wild eyed, of which I am both Kennah Aug 2013 #12

Hey...in the recent past nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #17

Commonist might be my favorite Kennah Aug 2013 #21

I am actually referring to pretty nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #25

Oh yes, the crude stuff is pretty vile, but it often shows the true nature of some. Kennah Aug 2013 #29

It is a mask slipping momemt, isn't it? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #30

so the Democratic Party will lose in 2014 hfojvt Aug 2013 #13

What most working people know nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #19

inside baseball? hfojvt Aug 2013 #71

People who are working three jobs nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #75

Exactly. vi5 Aug 2013 #142

It's my job to know this crap nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #194

only 5% of the workforce is working multiple jobs hfojvt Aug 2013 #305

I don't blame the voters nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #306

It's upside down logic. But it makes sense to some DU members. I prefer being part of the bluestate10 Aug 2013 #212

Poor kid, they are not blaming democrats nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #291

I had already seperated myself from the party over education but I read a thread the other day that liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #14

What is happening in Chicago, and Philadelphia, is exactly nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #23

Welcome to the state of Education in Ohio!!! tonybgood Aug 2013 #123

I am absolutely furious over the state of education in this country. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #178

What we've got here is a failure to enforce ideological boundaries. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #15

The party as a whole now occupies right of center nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #27

Time for this picture again. RC Aug 2013 #96

+++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #120

rec PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #28

This is an authoritarian, McCarthyite post and textbook geek tragedy Aug 2013 #97

A-FUCKING-MEN! NOVA_Dem Aug 2013 #129

I just want to hear Cryptoad Aug 2013 #31

I expected this response sooner or later nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #35

food for thought madrchsod Aug 2013 #42

Taken...but I think voters are realizing this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #48

Many people I talk to are fed up with both the R's and the D's, be it right or wrong, they, often RKP5637 Aug 2013 #90

Yes, the dems throw us a few more social justice crumbs, but economically, they serve the 1%, too. CrispyQ Aug 2013 #345

Yup - TBF Aug 2013 #184

Who represents you? Regardless of whether you approve or not, Democrats or republicans bluestate10 Aug 2013 #224

Yup, that is what worries us nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #236

So proponents of TPP are the pro-slavery people and opponents are valerief Aug 2013 #259

Actually you do not realize it, but you got it pretty close nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #263

I consider it slavery only without the ownership papers. valerief Aug 2013 #266

Exactly nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #271

+1 It sure seems that way Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #356

Two races to pay special attention, and won't be easy nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #360

Good points. Andy823 Aug 2013 #43

People of the ilk that you are mentioning live in a fantasy world where if things get bad bluestate10 Aug 2013 #237

You want a solution? I'll provide it. tonybgood Aug 2013 #133

So my question would be Andy823 Aug 2013 #143

You accomplish this by not voting for the people that do such things mick063 Aug 2013 #209

What he said was Andy823 Aug 2013 #215

Oh I understand completely mick063 Aug 2013 #217

Voter fraud. WCLinolVir Aug 2013 #281

This will go over well... Rex Aug 2013 #33

I just don't see it Andy823 Aug 2013 #38

Sorry purity is what is important Egnever Aug 2013 #56

I don't think that word means what you think it means... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #180

This is what happens to people who spend too sufrommich Aug 2013 #40

Yup, that's why I spend a lot of time talking to voters nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #49

Looks like you got another canned talking point Hydra Aug 2013 #119

You have a job on a small giveaway paper sufrommich Aug 2013 #128

Yup. Another canned answer nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #201

This is flamebaitish, at best. MineralMan Aug 2013 #41

I agree Andy823 Aug 2013 #46

I agree with you- and as you know, we don't agree on all that much cali Aug 2013 #60

We agree on far more than you think. It's the presentation MineralMan Aug 2013 #64

The growing schism on DU has a whole lot to do with the Left Wing of the Republican Party passing RC Aug 2013 #141

There are a lot of problems with trying to compare the republican party of cali Aug 2013 #147

Yes. This. And it is unfortunate. Skidmore Aug 2013 #169

Absolutely it is. And the "fuck pragmatic people" comment at the top of the thread Number23 Aug 2013 #275

I agree. Lots of it today. Agschmid Aug 2013 #298

As she tells us repeatedly: she does follow fires. Hekate Aug 2013 #318

Fuck Ralph Nader...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #44

Yup! Howler Aug 2013 #47

That's what I am hearing from locals nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #50

I have NEVER in my whole polictical life Howler Aug 2013 #58

I was talking to a local central Committee member nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #66

OOOO! I believe it. Howler Aug 2013 #80

To clarify Howler Aug 2013 #84

I know nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #312

I feel much the same, and I'm a fair bit older than you, this is nothing like the RKP5637 Aug 2013 #124

you most certainly are not alone. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #185

LOL We are all victims! Egnever Aug 2013 #51

Kudos for the acid response nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #53

My pleasure and thanks for the vapid post! Egnever Aug 2013 #54

Good bye nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #55

and another one down sad-cafe Aug 2013 #98

Thank You For Sharing cantbeserious Aug 2013 #57

When those who are sworn to uphold our rights and the Constitution Skip Intro Aug 2013 #59

WE were right to reject YOUR pimping of the IRS nontroversy. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #103

As if to prove my point. Skip Intro Aug 2013 #245

You and Darrel Issa are two peas in a pod on that score. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #301

Que the shallow name-calling in place of substance. Skip Intro Aug 2013 #302

Somewhere around here there's this wonderful poll Jackpine Radical Aug 2013 #61

That sums up my feelings. I am to the left of Obama, but I support him. I am part RKP5637 Aug 2013 #106

Indeed...what you express is what's wrong with polls that don't capture KoKo Aug 2013 #290

I'm also part of the 80% self-identified liberal Democrats who approve of Obama Hekate Aug 2013 #319

And what about the people who compare Obama unfavorably with Nixon & Cheney? baldguy Aug 2013 #62

there's also different structures of leverage between the parties: the GOP is MisterP Aug 2013 #63

Whatever. Why are you trying to pick fights? It's not helpful. Instead of trying to divide us, OregonBlue Aug 2013 #68

Whose fight this is I think I know. MineralMan Aug 2013 #69

Pointing out facts is hardly picking fights nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #73

And you know what? I actually don't mind it, one bit. The fissures were there all along. OregonBlue Aug 2013 #79

Where is "together" Hydra Aug 2013 #122

Go take a poli sci class nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #196

What about the enemy within? RC Aug 2013 #155

NADIN started the LIBERTARIAN bullshit. She proudly claimed to be one. DevonRex Aug 2013 #272

Nadin is not dividing us... fadedrose Aug 2013 #339

I agree, but what comes next? demwing Aug 2013 #76

We stop buying the lies being told to us. We keep being told that there aren't enough of us or that liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #78

Who's the 218th most liberal member of the House of Representatives? Nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #109

One problem is that candidates are compared and contrasted on the left/right scale demwing Aug 2013 #208

There is a lot of pent up demand for a populist candidate. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #210

oh, bullshit bigtree Aug 2013 #86

I guess facts are not what they are in your land nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #220

You call yourself a left wing Libertarian in this post: DevonRex Aug 2013 #88

self delete wrong place cali Aug 2013 #99

Virtually everyone here is a liberal. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #91

then maybe I need to change my name to socialist_at_heart because there are many liberals on liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #100

Depends on your subjective definition of liberalism. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #104

Well whatever the labels my beliefs are the same. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #115

I believe that as well, as do most people here. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #117

Well from now on I'm also voting that way as well. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #121

LOL. DevonRex Aug 2013 #114

Why, you filthy Communist... AzDar Aug 2013 #92

The good news is that DU is not at all representative of "the left" BlueStreak Aug 2013 #93

What things you going to focus on that will matter? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #116

Well, actually, there is a lot of movement on the individual liberty front. BlueStreak Aug 2013 #269

So there is a list of legislation being proposed? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #333

SInce 911, there are lots of totalitarians in COngress. That's how we got the Patriot Act after all BlueStreak Aug 2013 #337

Hillary will never be President. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #329

If she runs, she wins. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #334

So, I am a LABOR Democrat. Where do I fit in? Drahthaardogs Aug 2013 #101

I agree. But, .... PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #126

CEOs are making around 400 times more than average workers. Oh, I think $50,000 is MORE than liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #135

My point being, if there is 100% employment, PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #136

not true at all. Our problem is that the richest people in the country have conentrated the wealth liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #140

some numbers PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #148

and GDP might be even higher if we invested in education, jobs, and technology her in the US instead liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #161

Yep, and crime goes down Union Scribe Aug 2013 #197

This is a revolting op that seeks only to divide cali Aug 2013 #102

Zing, arrow, bullseye. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #111

"Incoherent, self-congratulatory mess." Brickbat Aug 2013 #163

Also kind of delusional. nt Hekate Aug 2013 #317

K&R n/t Michigan-Arizona Aug 2013 #110

Yup fredamae Aug 2013 #112

Why not just have a purity test ... Ztolkins Aug 2013 #118

I certainly will have a purity test for the politicians that want my vote that is for sure. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #132

Of course you don't mind it. You frickin' revel in it. cali Aug 2013 #125

+1 n/t tammywammy Aug 2013 #157

The 5 stages of grief felix_numinous Aug 2013 #130

Wise, and it is part of it. This is the part that is unlike any other period in HUMAN nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #246

genetic bottleneck you say? THAT must be why I have noticed all these mutants- on the street.... bettyellen Aug 2013 #265

You're not dangerous, Nadin. pintobean Aug 2013 #137

Sanity finally shows up. Rex Aug 2013 #144

Lol. Rex, I think that's the 1st pintobean Aug 2013 #151

LOL! Rex Aug 2013 #156

but but but but cali Aug 2013 #145

You know, they still print pintobean Aug 2013 #158

oh that is too funny. I can't stop laughing cali Aug 2013 #166

Hey, her VROOM VROOM video has 211 views already snooper2 Aug 2013 #346

Well,sure it can do all that in a controlled environment pintobean Aug 2013 #363

!!! zappaman Aug 2013 #149

Love it! pintobean Aug 2013 #160

All that data mining and they still couldn't find anything but onesies! Rex Aug 2013 #162

People read stuff here. That is one way ideas take hold and spread. RC Aug 2013 #172

Nadine is trying to build a consensus? pintobean Aug 2013 #174

I enjoy hearing from people who have voted democrat for decades like myself liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #175

Then why all the REC's? RC Aug 2013 #183

You forgot 'water is wet'. pintobean Aug 2013 #192

And yet she is still here. RC Aug 2013 #195

Like I was saying... pintobean Aug 2013 #204

Entertainment Value snooper2 Aug 2013 #340

Can't really make it any more blunt or obvious now can he? Rex Aug 2013 #300

She actually put herself on ignore once! zappaman Aug 2013 #314

The country is not conservative... vi5 Aug 2013 #138

There are only a tiny few on your side of the schism. gulliver Aug 2013 #152

How we make friends and converts not nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #303

Deep schism vs. lively debate: Wonder who that serves? Hekate Aug 2013 #154

"The country is not conservative. The elites are." That's what we call a BINGO. nt broadcaster75201 Aug 2013 #159

Interesting how history repeats itself. The business unions and the government(s) sided with jtuck004 Aug 2013 #165

history always repeats itself. Right now the rich have hoarded all the money, but eventually the liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #171

Wouldn't bet any money on it. jtuck004 Aug 2013 #177

The first labor movement did it. Corporations will keep driving down wages, and eventually it will liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #181

The "first" labor movement got it's ass handed to it by business unions (like Gompers AFof L) jtuck004 Aug 2013 #186

people earned enough to buy houses and send their children to college for a long time. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #189

They got tokens and no power or control. On a somewhat larger scale than blacks in a plantation jtuck004 Aug 2013 #193

I agree they could have gotten more. Truth be told my values line up more with socialism which is liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #198

The first labor movement didn't agree with socialism. Business and government tried to jtuck004 Aug 2013 #202

well of course they didn't. Back then people were programmed to think that socialism=communism and liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #207

Just a note however - that whole Red Scare, jtuck004 Aug 2013 #218

k&r... spanone Aug 2013 #167

This post seems just a Hodge podge of personal anecdotes Trajan Aug 2013 #168

It's her specialty. Brickbat Aug 2013 #211

Continuing my theme for the day... zappaman Aug 2013 #213

Nope nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #225

My band will name their next album: "For this have you been under a rock in this forum?" FSogol Aug 2013 #387

Lol. It actually looks like you're inadvertently bringing DUers together cali Aug 2013 #170

Seriously...this is the first time you and I have agreed on anything in months...nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #278

That part really is amazing, isn't it? Hekate Aug 2013 #320

The country is at the Center. That is becoming more obvious each day. bluestate10 Aug 2013 #187

Just wait until we have a Republican in the WH again, and all of these lickspittles do a 180 Marr Aug 2013 #188

They are sort of like the crazy cousin that creates a mess, then promise undying loyalty when bluestate10 Aug 2013 #251

Thank you for the wonderful example of what I mean nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #256

The fix for this isn't all that complex, though. We just need a new enemy. hughee99 Aug 2013 #190

Meh, looks the same to me. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #199

only an internet forum creon Aug 2013 #216

I don't, for all I care it can burn... it is already nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #221

" I don't, for all I care it can burn... it is already' zappaman Aug 2013 #223

Need help canonfodder Aug 2013 #227

You can use the google and get that from wikipedia nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #230

DU is burning... and you don't care. pintobean Aug 2013 #232

Of course it's not. just more garbage. cali Aug 2013 #325

you wrote a garbled, self-congratulatory divisive mess cali Aug 2013 #324

GOP creon Aug 2013 #391

Rec 100. n/t Catherina Aug 2013 #226

Wow Nadin you certainly got people talking with this thread. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #228

I hope it is for the better nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #238

I am sure this place will survive. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #239

I am not talking of this place, it is just a microscope in some ways, nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #243

Well they say one day this nation will break up, but I hope it is not in my lifetime. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #244

I hope NOT to see it, but I expect it nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #247

Do you think it will be north versus south again? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #248

No, I think it will be in some ways rural versus urban nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #255

Well I hope I am dead by that point. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #260

don't worry, that's almost assured. Like most of the op's predictions cali Aug 2013 #350

+1 nt Javaman Aug 2013 #385

Jesus Q. Christ on a Segway, you went from "divide" in Democratic party to Civil WAR! snooper2 Aug 2013 #347

she's been predicting imminent civil war for years along with other ridiculous cali Aug 2013 #351

The schism had already reached rock bottom in the Zimmerman case Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #229

Yeah, race tends to do that, doesn't it? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #231

Having been here for 10+ years Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #331

Yup nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #361

Yup but sometimes Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #376

The schism was pretty clear after the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting as well. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #233

None at all, and it is just deepening nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #234

Whats a schism anyway? polynomial Aug 2013 #235

There is no schism on Free Press I bet, like you said orpupilofnature57 Aug 2013 #254

I was wondering about local labor.... I get the impression they have done all the heavy lifting.... midnight Aug 2013 #257

I think that we will see that come to fruition, as it were, when elections come nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #258

Fortunately, DU is not the Democratic Party Gman Aug 2013 #261

And unfortunately the party is talking voter revolts, as a potential end result of this nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #264

'Talking voter revolts'? Waaaaaaa? Rex Aug 2013 #286

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #262

K&R DeSwiss Aug 2013 #270

And when was this place ever united? Beacool Aug 2013 #282

The early days nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #292

Agreed completely fujiyama Aug 2013 #283

you'd think all the little chickens that have used the 2010 example around here stupidicus Aug 2013 #295

in '11 they were blaming gay voters for '10, but the backdraft put an end to that MisterP Aug 2013 #296

I'm inclined to think at this point stupidicus Aug 2013 #369

All I can say is.... Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #297

What was accomplished? I just noted what is going on nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #299

actually, you just made a bunch of stuff up. cali Aug 2013 #326

Teacher's notes: "does not play well with others". Sounds like you WANT a split. You should Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #307

Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #308

Oh good! More divisive tactics! JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #327

Which "schism" is deepening? another_liberal Aug 2013 #330

Ah, Meta is back. How nice... MineralMan Aug 2013 #335

I agree Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #343

Both parties are for the elites! They pretend to fight each other, and many do it for real but, Dustlawyer Aug 2013 #344

Which is why Harry "take-a-dive" will never enact comprehensive filibuster reform, GoneFishin Aug 2013 #373

Oh ffs. HappyMe Aug 2013 #352

nadinbrzezinski kpete Aug 2013 #354

Your persecution complex is endlessly fascinating LordGlenconner Aug 2013 #365

I'm Against It Brother Buzz Aug 2013 #367

Ah, the classics Hekate Aug 2013 #372

Well stated nadinbrzezinski tiredtoo Aug 2013 #377

I've been revolting for years!!! Javaman Aug 2013 #383

Good thing DU is not a reflection of the Democratic Party. kentuck Aug 2013 #388

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THUS. El Fuego Aug 2013 #390

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