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Showing Original Post only (View all)Glenn Greenwald: "Detaining My Partner: A Failed Attempt at Intimidation" [View all]
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/18/david-miranda-detained-uk-nsaSunday 18 August 2013 14.44 EDT
Detaining my partner: a failed attempt at intimidation
The detention of my partner, David Miranda, by UK authorities will have the opposite effect of the one intended
Glenn Greenwald
At 6:30 am this morning my time - 5:30 am on the East Coast of the US - I received a telephone call from someone who identified himself as a "security official at Heathrow airport." He told me that my partner, David Miranda, had been "detained" at the London airport "under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act of 2000."
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I immediately contacted the Guardian, which sent lawyers to the airport, as well various Brazilian officials I know. Within the hour, several senior Brazilian officials were engaged and expressing indignation over what was being done. The Guardian has the full story here.
Despite all that, five more hours went by and neither the Guardian's lawyers nor Brazilian officials, including the Ambassador to the UK in London, were able to obtain any information about David. We spent most of that time contemplating the charges he would likely face once the 9-hour period elapsed.
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The stated purpose of this law, as the name suggests, is to question people about terrorism. The detention power, claims the UK government, is used "to determine whether that person is or has been involved in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism."
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Worse, they kept David detained right up until the last minute: for the full 9 hours, something they very rarely do. Only at the last minute did they finally release him. We spent all day - as every hour passed - worried that he would be arrested and charged under a terrorism statute. This was obviously designed to send a message of intimidation to those of us working journalistically on reporting on the NSA and its British counterpart, the GCHQ.
Before letting him go, they seized numerous possessions of his, including his laptop, his cellphone, various video game consuls, DVDs, USB sticks, and other materials. They did not say when they would return any of it, or if they would.
This is obviously a rather profound escalation of their attacks on the news-gathering process and journalism. It's bad enough to prosecute and imprison sources. It's worse still to imprison journalists who report the truth. But to start detaining the family members and loved ones of journalists is simply despotic. Even the Mafia had ethical rules against targeting the family members of people they feel threatened by. But the UK puppets and their owners in the US national security state obviously are unconstrained by even those minimal scruples.
If the UK and US governments believe that tactics like this are going to deter or intimidate us in any way from continuing to report aggressively on what these documents reveal, they are beyond deluded. If anything, it will have only the opposite effect: to embolden us even further. Beyond that, every time the US and UK governments show their true character to the world - when they prevent the Bolivian President's plane from flying safely home, when they threaten journalists with prosecution, when they engage in behavior like what they did today - all they do is helpfully underscore why it's so dangerous to allow them to exercise vast, unchecked spying power in the dark.
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Glenn Greenwald: "Detaining My Partner: A Failed Attempt at Intimidation" [View all]
Hissyspit
Aug 2013
OP
More than intimidation. They confiscated all his research data. That is theft.
geckosfeet
Aug 2013
#8
Intimidation, theft, thuggery. That's the New World Order. Who's next on their list?
chimpymustgo
Aug 2013
#52
Maybe they thought he feared "outing", to the extent he was outed. I, for one, did not know that
silvershadow
Aug 2013
#332
One day you may come to understand why you can't be taken as a serious person
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#7
Hint: on EVERY story like this, it is best to not jump into 'See? I told you!' mode.
randome
Aug 2013
#11
Well, now you can go ahead and comment as we have confirmation from several extremely
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#269
Right, this never happened. To someone's partner who is a Public Figure now thanks to the
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#107
The U.S. State Dept criticizes China for detaining family members of journalists.
Luminous Animal
Aug 2013
#61
So you doubt this happened as described, but if it did, Greenwald brought it on himself?
deurbano
Aug 2013
#157
You are disingenuous and a poor propagandist,. hold out for the truth as long as you want,.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#234
I am also a dual (British)-Canadian citizen with relatively little knowledge of the politics
LeftishBrit
Aug 2013
#286
omg. that's true! Russia = GooOOOOOd, Canada = Where Whisp lives! must be baaaaaD.....
Whisp
Aug 2013
#155
Waiting and seeing would be just fine. Obviously, that's not what you chose to do.
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#18
"Making my own conclusions" is the direct opposite of "waiting a couple of days"
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#191
Perhaps I just have more experience and more knowledge of history and can read the early
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#125
so you think I really really thought that David made chicken noises at the airport...
Whisp
Aug 2013
#132
"Glennie" has real balls, something the POTUS lacks despite having had many opportunities to show
plug3
Aug 2013
#207
Good attempt at creating yet another CT. Any thoughts on game consoles and USB drives?
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#254
why did the poor sot think he'd could just trapse around with stolen government documents?
Whisp
Aug 2013
#255
Why, according to another CT it's because they are plotting to install Libertarian Overlords
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#267
Under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act of 2000 officers are permitted to confiscate
Luminous Animal
Aug 2013
#10
When they get it back.. if functional, it will be loaded with spyware and firmware. nt
TheBlackAdder
Aug 2013
#71
All of the electronics are likely tampered with and therefore should be discarded. n/t
NOVA_Dem
Aug 2013
#23
Well, that's his side of things anyway. He's got the articles to back him up.
octoberlib
Aug 2013
#261
I would argue it would be incredibly stupid for any of them to go traipsing around the world
Egnever
Aug 2013
#118
So now Great Britain is an authoritarian puppet government with no regard for human rights
Egnever
Aug 2013
#143
Yep. Pretty much that. Why? Did you fall for the official propaganda of "democracy" etc? n/t
ocpagu
Aug 2013
#154
I certainly don't think we have the most despotic government on the planet or even close...
LeftishBrit
Aug 2013
#290
Oh you did? So why dont you point out to me where it limits itself to detaining terrorists
Egnever
Aug 2013
#122
"LONDON (Reuters) - British authorities used anti-terrorism powers to detain the partner of a journa
Hissyspit
Aug 2013
#170
"We need to have the ability to look at a situation from different points of view"
Egnever
Aug 2013
#150
I agree with you. But what you consider sensationalizing, I consider to be raising awareness.
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#293
Yup I judge Greenwald to be an attention whore with little interest in the truth.
Egnever
Aug 2013
#126
Your logic needs help. "I think there is plenty of room for actual improvement in oversight of the
rhett o rick
Aug 2013
#303
They're getting desperate trying to silence the whistle blowers. And, way too obvious.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Aug 2013
#46
The last paragraph is absolutely correct. This kind of abuse will only emphasize how dangerous
sabrina 1
Aug 2013
#50
He flew in from Russia with a "laptop, his cellphone, various video game consuls, DVDs, USB sticks,
ucrdem
Aug 2013
#64
In the hands of a trained "suspected terrorist", a DVD can be used to decapitate a victim!
Dragonfli
Aug 2013
#291
So you are maintaining that the UK was justified in detaining Miranda? Or were they
HardTimes99
Aug 2013
#131
Is that 'sounds like in the real world' or 'sounds like in the world ucrdem made up'?
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#222
Assuming you have some integrity left, you would correct your post from Russia to Berlin.
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#357
1) David is not a journalist,& 2) it's possible/CONCEIVABLE he was a "mule" for stolen security data
UTUSN
Aug 2013
#83
Apparently, Parliament did NOT know the Terrorist Act could be used in that way.
JimDandy
Aug 2013
#307
The police used to say it must only be used for counter-terrorism:
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#309
They wouldn't do this to a Tea Party type advocating the overthrow of the government by guns.
Spitfire of ATJ
Aug 2013
#111
once a gain the cheerleaders for the authoritarian state are applauding.. surprise, surprise,
Douglas Carpenter
Aug 2013
#130
This is why the govt cannot be trusted with collecting info on innocent persons.
boston bean
Aug 2013
#159
Sounds like either a deliberate provocation by Miranda or he was meeting someone at Heathrow
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#164
If Greenwald or Poitras arrived at Heathrow, they would probably be detained and arrested.
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#213
Since they are American, and received information from an American about the workings of the NSA
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#215
Greenwald has published information about GCHQ operations, means, and methods
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#221
His partner was acting as a go between and co-conspirator with Greenwald and Poitras.
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#250
Publishing information about GCHQ that is protected by the Official Secrets Act
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#319
They would apply to Mr Greenwald, and to Mr Miranda if he is aiding Mr Greenwald
FarCenter
Aug 2013
#340
Cool Conspiracy Theory! Don't forget to add little green aliens and chemtrails for a good measure!
idwiyo
Aug 2013
#252
And the people here defending this wonder why they are called "Authoritarian Apologists?"
RetroLounge
Aug 2013
#187
CBS News: Partner of Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who broke the NSA leak story, was detained at
Hissyspit
Aug 2013
#220
All that stuff they seized is pricy and so is traveling.... I hope this guy makes a good living...
midnight
Aug 2013
#223
I'm wondering if he had any trouble getting TO Poitras with all those gadgets...
Whisp
Aug 2013
#253
It does exactly that, it shows the corporate-military for what they are, tinny frightened fascists.
Civilization2
Aug 2013
#225
I think so too. That sentence is totally unsourced, just sandwiched in there.
Catherina
Aug 2013
#287
"One U.S. security official told Reuters that one of the main purposes of the British government's
Hissyspit
Aug 2013
#345
Gosh, I'd hate to see you drop your Guardian subscription over this. n/t
DisgustipatedinCA
Aug 2013
#350