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Shoes fitting, cakes having and eating, etc.. cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #1
As someone who was here on DU watching Nader's aftermath unfold years ago… KittyWampus Aug 2013 #2
Sounds like projection of the double standard CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #18
It's projection all right. reusrename Aug 2013 #134
"Sounds like projection of the double standard" villager Aug 2013 #176
Some Clinton fans love this episode. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #28
"Nader's aftermath" Webster Green Aug 2013 #79
If anything will push Democrats into the Green Party, it is Democratics condoning this surveillance. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #88
I hope all those who have lost their minds on this issue go Green. stevenleser Aug 2013 #125
What a shame that the hair on fire stuff isn't quite as appealing as fascism to some people. reusrename Aug 2013 #135
Not really. Rex Aug 2013 #139
LOL, right, because the choice is raving about unsubstantiated claims or Fascism. stevenleser Aug 2013 #156
We are deliberately examining it and fixing it. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #145
No, the group to which you belong is not deliberately examining or fixing it. You're jumping on stevenleser Aug 2013 #157
It didn't end 40 years ago, and the War-Criminals and Torturers were Never Punished HumansAndResources Aug 2013 #158
Yes. alarimer Aug 2013 #172
Huh? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #81
Then stop making it about the personalities and about the facts as known hootinholler Aug 2013 #3
The "government attacks on Snowden the person"????? karynnj Aug 2013 #55
How has Snowden harmed US foreign policy? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #90
Making what many knew public means that many countries karynnj Aug 2013 #106
My favorite for 2016 is clear from my signature line. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #144
+1000. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #159
That's not possible. jeff47 Aug 2013 #102
the answer to your question lies in decades of deception by.... grasswire Aug 2013 #4
I'd like to see the flight path you filed, before making a judgement on your facts. The Link Aug 2013 #5
it would look like a pretzel Skittles Aug 2013 #26
The doubling down in responses to you is pretty funny. If the facts are with you, you dont have to stevenleser Aug 2013 #6
+1...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #8
+1 nt Progressive dog Aug 2013 #10
+1 nt jazzimov Aug 2013 #12
+1 CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #15
And THAT'S why they love you at Newscorp. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #20
Hee,hee bahrbearian Aug 2013 #30
See my #120 nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #122
See post #43 bahrbearian Aug 2013 #124
That post has nothing to do with me. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #126
Thank you for again proving my point stevenleser Aug 2013 #59
That was silliness. East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #77
Shoe fits etc. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #78
It's always interesting to see who applauds cheap shots. It's bad enough to make one but stevenleser Aug 2013 #120
I appreciate a good one. No need to try and top it. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #128
A cheap shot is a cheap shot. Saying it's a "good" one is like saying stevenleser Aug 2013 #129
It was a good one and in this thread deserved for defending what is indefensible. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #130
See my #129 nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #131
I'd do it again in a heartbeat. My patience is gone. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #132
See my #129 nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #133
oh yeah arely staircase Aug 2013 #25
+1 Hekate Aug 2013 #38
you mean names like ratf**kers? azurnoir Aug 2013 #43
+1 nt Grateful for Hope Aug 2013 #108
Yeah, the facts must be with her. Puglover Aug 2013 #113
+1 tallahasseedem Aug 2013 #118
oops Phlem Aug 2013 #7
Meh. The Democratic party has been destroying itself for decades leftstreet Aug 2013 #9
so why do you vote for democrats? arely staircase Aug 2013 #14
I increasingly ask myself the same question. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #22
Cost of running is prohibitive. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #49
Nice try leftstreet Aug 2013 #27
Yes, it was much healthier in 1988 geek tragedy Aug 2013 #45
How about getting an independent Special Prosecutor to investigate the NSA/CIA to get the facts? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #11
A dash of Politeness chowder66 Aug 2013 #13
I'd like to see people tire of name calling. Igel Aug 2013 #31
I think stopping it all together might chowder66 Aug 2013 #36
Name-calling is the resort of the inarticulate. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #91
On one hand it is "authoritarian NSA apologist" on the other hand Rex Aug 2013 #16
You forgot about the "rascist" word used in the beginning of this discussion when Snowden JDPriestly Aug 2013 #93
You have the same doubts/reservations I do about these characters Triana Aug 2013 #17
K/R CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #19
Damn you, Firefox mobile! East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #21
The "freedom" folks are going to put you on their list ... and this OP JoePhilly Aug 2013 #23
Ha ha East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #24
That reminds me of the old doctor joke Warpy Aug 2013 #29
Lousy doctor. If you can't lift your knee to your chin, you need to exercise more and eat less. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #98
If it talks like an "Authoritarian NSA Apologist", and it walks like a ... 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #32
"Authoritarian NSA Apologist" is a meaningless label based on speculation. CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #46
I have plenty of proof 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #57
+10 RC Aug 2013 #73
+ a gazillion. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #80
The spying violates our Constitution. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #99
and almost everyone here would agree with you... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #161
Then stop doing it. quakerboy Aug 2013 #33
I question whatever happened to the gun debate.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #34
surely iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #35
It's a "shiny object" thing.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #42
...that's what you've gotten out of all this? nt Union Scribe Aug 2013 #52
I guess I'm used to living in the USA since the Cold War.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #58
Maybe some are Cryptoad Aug 2013 #64
I'm pissed that they cheapened it by having EVERYBODY get one.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #100
ummmm Cryptoad Aug 2013 #104
Uh huh... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #115
Spot On. Thank you, KittyWampus. Hekate Aug 2013 #37
R#25 & K for, there's great balm to be had in JaneyVee's thread: UTUSN Aug 2013 #39
LOL. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #40
yeh, like that has never happened. Whisp Aug 2013 #94
Can you explain who the 'us' is in your claim just before your 'some liberals' materials... Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #41
Let's ask Kimberley Dvorak and Michele Catalano. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #44
Speaking on insisting on facts... Matariki Aug 2013 #47
beyond sick kardonb Aug 2013 #48
How can we have any kind of substantiated christx30 Aug 2013 #69
Really? Egnever Aug 2013 #110
Cheney: "We have to work the dark side" tblue Aug 2013 #151
K&R. n/t FSogol Aug 2013 #50
Great post! Scurrilous Aug 2013 #51
Invading Countries Is The Preferred Method otohara Aug 2013 #53
That's marching orders straight from julian assange's whiny tweet.. Cha Aug 2013 #56
Have you noticed that their talking points Iliyah Aug 2013 #61
To quote a brilliant DUer: tblue Aug 2013 #147
I am getting fucking sick and tired of supposed liberal Democrats baldguy Aug 2013 #60
What you said. greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #62
The Pauls have nothing to do with this. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #83
The Pauls have nothing to do with this - except that their acolytes seem to be writing the script. baldguy Aug 2013 #92
I am not into CTs esp when it involves bit players like the Pauls. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #97
The idea that Snowdens & Greenwalds critics are automatically totalitarian fascists is a CT. baldguy Aug 2013 #101
Please proceed. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #105
You think using RW talking points to attack a Democratic President doesn't play into the GOPs hands? baldguy Aug 2013 #171
This. Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #136
I'll see your Paulite and raise you a Cheneyite tblue Aug 2013 #150
Except that Snowden and Cheney are birds of a feather. baldguy Aug 2013 #153
Oh, that was funny. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #63
How funny Cryptoad Aug 2013 #65
If one is tired of being called and labeled an authoritarian, then maybe they should stop quinnox Aug 2013 #66
Or maybe one should stop labeling and namecalling. What is the constructive purpose there? CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #67
lol, well, good luck with that recommendation on a political message board/forum quinnox Aug 2013 #70
Isn't it authoritarian to demand not being tblue Aug 2013 #152
too bad you don't believe in the EFF or the ACLU either Defectata Aug 2013 #68
Sure we do. The ACLU has been on both sides of this issue. They applauded Kennedy for creating FISA stevenleser Aug 2013 #121
There was a post here the other day that was filled with fear-mongering SaveAmerica Aug 2013 #71
Hell to the YEAH! BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #72
you focus on the trees that don't look right in order to deny the existence of the forest.... mike_c Aug 2013 #74
^^ Nailed it. n/t winter is coming Aug 2013 #86
This post seems to have some facts TomClash Aug 2013 #75
The OP is misleading Android3.14 Aug 2013 #76
I don't get it TomClash Aug 2013 #82
This is like a conspiracy theory. nt boston bean Aug 2013 #84
I don't necessarily have a problem with you or other's positions... 1awake Aug 2013 #85
This is not a partisan issue. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #87
It seems that the two sides here are really on the same side. gtar100 Aug 2013 #89
I have never accused anyone of being an Authoritarian NSA Apologist. A Simple Game Aug 2013 #95
You're tired of being called names? ljm2002 Aug 2013 #96
Nice post! Puglover Aug 2013 #109
^^^^^this^^^^^^ azurnoir Aug 2013 #111
"I think"!!?!??! How bout some facts? uponit7771 Aug 2013 #141
So who is doing it? joshcryer Aug 2013 #143
thank you. + 1000 That was brilliant. I am beyond sick and tired of hearing pro-authoritarians Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #148
Equally sick of Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #164
so name names.. frylock Aug 2013 #165
I think you are lying and you know you are lying, Name one - just one Paulite Libertarian who post Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #167
I think you're lying Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #170
oh give me a break. Everyone here is poitically astute enough to know that wanting to curtail Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #174
then why have you tried so hard to earn the designation? stupidicus Aug 2013 #103
You forgot "half-bright personality cultist who can't read a map" LeftyMom Aug 2013 #107
Great post, KittyWampus. Thanks! n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #112
You had me at RATFUCKER! Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #114
K&R n/t michigandem58 Aug 2013 #116
That's ok, people are concerned about preserving felix_numinous Aug 2013 #117
Amen! If not for us, there'd be no one tblue Aug 2013 #146
So you Just want to be left to holler ratfucker, racist, Paulbot, Libertarian, "hair on fire", TheKentuckian Aug 2013 #119
Why is this traumatic to you? MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #123
Like the debt, it only becomes a problem when the brown guy does it. 6000eliot Aug 2013 #127
I think that Jamaal510 Aug 2013 #137
Then change your tone. Go read the heading on your post about Miranda having docs cui bono Aug 2013 #138
********AMEN************** uponit7771 Aug 2013 #140
Got a link to the poll? I'll put it in my sig. joshcryer Aug 2013 #142
Then quit being one. n/t Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #149
If you are sick of being called names Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #154
Cry me some crocodile tears. Pholus Aug 2013 #155
If Romney was in office would your opinion be different on the NSA revelations? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #160
K&R Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #162
Your not? Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #163
Stop being one then. n/t Downtown Hound Aug 2013 #166
When a poster's first reaction to every story is, morningfog Aug 2013 #168
Pejoratives tend to illustrate the lack of character... LanternWaste Aug 2013 #169
Just my opinion but people calling you a "Authoritarian NSA Apologist" are being to nice for Katashi_itto Aug 2013 #173
That's not right. I like to call you The Cartographer. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #175
What was it you called me... 'reactionary shrieking ratfucker', or something to that effect. Marr Aug 2013 #177
Greenwald works for the PTB. Californeeway Aug 2013 #178
RW cons have the same "black/white dichotomy" requirement.. DCBob Aug 2013 #179
It's because of these folks and their "liberal" affiliates. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #180
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