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Valhallakey

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24. Can anyone definitively answer these questions?

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 06:37 PM

Aug 2013

I believe I know the answers but lack anything definitive other than no denials...

Are we collecting everything including content of phone conversations, emails etc? The NSA admits to analyzing only the meta data without warrant, however if a warrant is obtained does the NSA have access to content of phone conversations, emails etc... that has potentially been collected for years and kept ready just in case?

Are we using the British Intelligence services to spy on US citizens without any of the legal hassles that impede our government from doing so?

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Roundup: You Won�t BELIEVE What�s Going On with Government Spying on Americans [View all] GliderGuider Aug 2013 OP

Excellent compendium, thanks! nt MannyGoldstein Aug 2013 #1

Yeah but other than that, he's got nothing. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #70

As a paying member of EFF & Food and Water Watch... I'll soon be labeled a Domestic Terrorist. nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #2

I suggest you remove all boxes from your garage before the government sees them DJ13 Aug 2013 #5

Exactly. Some of the short-sighted NSA cheerleaders need to take the long view. Who will be deemed chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #16

Exactly, it is all relative to whom TPTB are at any point in time, many can't seem to RKP5637 Aug 2013 #44

Bookmarked. Thank you. Autumn Aug 2013 #3

I'm calling for an official definition of terrorist. mick063 Aug 2013 #4

"Anyone not part of the surveillance state and financial elite." That should do it. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #6

IOW: The Bush Family Evil Empire. Octafish Aug 2013 #8

Everyone should read Octafish's linked thread directly above. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #9

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You've got to be kidding? caseymoz Aug 2013 #66

Thank you. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #68

It's probably irretrievably confused at this point. DirkGently Aug 2013 #71

Kicked. Bookmarked. Recommended. Octafish Aug 2013 #7

Thanks. I've followed your work for years. It's nice to be able to contribute. nt GliderGuider Aug 2013 #10

well done G_j Aug 2013 #11

HA! My first thought was Roundup the weed spray! Rex Aug 2013 #12

Great list and supporting links. Thank you! n/t hootinholler Aug 2013 #13

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Thank you... onyourleft Aug 2013 #17

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Kicked, Recced, and Bookmarked! Fuddnik Aug 2013 #20

WHY WASN'T THIS AN ISSUE IN 2006? pansypoo53219 Aug 2013 #21

Well, Bushco got the New York Times to spike the story in 2004. Octafish Aug 2013 #25

Because neither Tice nor Snowden had spoken out. This was not headline news until they did. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #69

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k & frigging r! n/t wildbilln864 Aug 2013 #23

Can anyone definitively answer these questions? Valhallakey Aug 2013 #24

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #28

K&R Bookmarking for 'discussions' on DU. How anyone can look at snappyturtle Aug 2013 #26

England has tempora.we pay them to spy on us?!?! easychoice Aug 2013 #27

Doesn't change much, but tblue Aug 2013 #29

Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and again... nt GliderGuider Aug 2013 #30

Bullshit. Octafish Aug 2013 #34

I swear, Octafiah, tblue Aug 2013 #39

Thanks, tblue. It is weird, the news gets pasted and used... Octafish Aug 2013 #41

No worries. tblue Aug 2013 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author rhett o rick Aug 2013 #73

Can we afford to live with the intent of the 4th amendment in the age of terror? Valhallakey Aug 2013 #31

Of course we can (you answered your own question!). We have a right to privacy. Probable cause chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #48

And this was published before the David Miranda story broke. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #32

REc and kicked dixiegrrrrl Aug 2013 #33

Just wait until IPv6 is fully implemented... whttevrr Aug 2013 #35

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Bookmarking. You Rock. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #42

but this comes from a well-known conspiracy site NoMoreWarNow Aug 2013 #43

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #46

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Nasty business, the growing list is ugly, and the govt. response to the leaks is pathetic; Trust us! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #49

k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #50

I guess we should shut it down think_critically Aug 2013 #51

Is This Their Line? On the Road Aug 2013 #52

k and r panader0 Aug 2013 #53

Excellent Post - Highly Recomended FreakinDJ Aug 2013 #54

Great post. And don't forget that, though it isn't the most important consideration, we are paying Squinch Aug 2013 #55

Holy Shit! That is some list. JEB Aug 2013 #56

Thanks for posting this Hydra Aug 2013 #57

Kind of a hodge-podge of fact/opinion/bullshit Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #58

Oh, *that* kind of bullshit. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #59

Former Stasi Officer: The NSA Domestic Surveillance Program Would Have Been 'A Dream Come True' frylock Aug 2013 #60

I saw the piece Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #61

So what's your point? Prosecute Snowden and Greenwald and pretend this rhett o rick Aug 2013 #72

My point was this story is strong enough to stand Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #75

If you think there is too much hyperbole, then rewrite it yourself without the hyperbole. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #76

This is News????????? Cryptoad Aug 2013 #62

But...but...but TM99 Aug 2013 #63

"the only way to fix things is to fire all of the corrupt government officials who let it happen"!!! AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #64

K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #65

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