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Yo_Mama

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40. It should, at a minimum, be operated with far more oversight
Sun Aug 18, 2013, 07:43 PM
Aug 2013

and much more public disclosure of what's being done. To me, at least, it seems that this is out of control and probably really hurting national security. It's possible to dump huge sums of money into vast surveillance capabilities that in the end, leave you absent the human power to follow up real risks. It seems likely to me that this system has diverted investigators onto "low-value" targets aka the sting ops that produce prosecutions of those who may or may not have acted anyway.

And then we have to respect the Constitution, which the current system does not. We are in full "destroy the village to save it" mode, and it's time to step back, rethink and retool.

It seems very clear that this won't happen without public pressure, a public discussion, and brand new parameters that are set not by investigators, but by the public and the public's representatives.

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Should the NSA be abolished? [View all] michigandem58 Aug 2013 OP
Yes. eom Autumn Aug 2013 #1
yes, that way the spying can be rebranded. unblock Aug 2013 #2
No. Rex Aug 2013 #3
It should be reined in and tightly controlled burnodo Aug 2013 #4
Any specific recommendations Egnever Aug 2013 #10
Sure burnodo Aug 2013 #18
That is already the law Egnever Aug 2013 #19
Then who's going to be charged with a crime? burnodo Aug 2013 #20
I would imagine the people proved to have committed one Egnever Aug 2013 #22
Obama told Jay Leno and a national audience that there was NO spying on American citizens burnodo Aug 2013 #24
The idea that there is no oversight is again false on its face Egnever Aug 2013 #25
Cool. randome Aug 2013 #31
I think there needs to be a purge. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #5
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good post dionysus Aug 2013 #12
Well said. Egnever Aug 2013 #14
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Yes pscot Aug 2013 #7
Complete over-haul, from ground up 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #8
Not abolished mick063 Aug 2013 #9
Neato. All or nothing mentality is so cute. 99Forever Aug 2013 #11
In one instance, I'll take the "all or nothing" approach. mick063 Aug 2013 #13
Methinks, you misread my meaning. 99Forever Aug 2013 #21
An agent? Can I get paid for this? michigandem58 Aug 2013 #41
Some do. 99Forever Aug 2013 #47
No. DevonRex Aug 2013 #15
Yes! We should stop sending rockets where they don't belong! What? ......Never mind. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #17
Yes. And, throw in the CIA for good measure. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #23
Yes. HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #27
Specifically, Benton D Struckcheon Aug 2013 #29
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You do know what the NSA is tasked with, right? randome Aug 2013 #32
yes think about the children. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #34
should post and run be abolished? Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #33
I used to be disgusted now I try to be amused -Elvis Costello Fumesucker Aug 2013 #45
Yes, and even more importantly, the contractors and subcontractors Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #35
Yes. nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #37
No. We have a great national interest in an ability to intercept electronic communications cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #38
Yes. Now. It's the only way to get rid of the "perception management" teams destroying DU. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #39
It should, at a minimum, be operated with far more oversight Yo_Mama Aug 2013 #40
It already is. NSA - No Such Agency Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #42
The NSA specifically or the entire intelligence sphere Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #43
Could get a good start by shitcanning the contractors and doing it with govt employees Fumesucker Aug 2013 #44
Because the only options are "cheer wildly" or "have no intelligence agencies". Marr Aug 2013 #46
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