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In reply to the discussion: I Am Beyond Sick/Tired Of Being Called An "Authoritarian NSA Apologist". [View all]stupidicus
(2,570 posts)"we" all know who "you" are, and most of that stuff started with an "I" upon which disagreement was found, was reacted to in the customary way (based on my conversation with those here a long time) by "your" crowd with the same kinda stuff that's apparently always spewed when dissent/criticism of the messiah hits this board -- name-calling with an intent of censorship.
If you don't want bloodied up, perhaps maybe you and your own shouldn't work so hard to be the first one/s drawing it.
Much like the chained cpi debate I witnessed and participated in, and that followed much that same formula, it similarly appears as if the goal posts are constantly being moved, but will no doubt have the same result that one did -- the pottymouths who allowed their name-calling, etc to overload their ability to back it up, will be eating crow in the end. That's what any and all revisions, etc, in existing law and/or stopping of the illegal/unconstitutional interpretations of existing law will be for you and yours, and all of the strawpeople like SNowden, GG, etc, that you've been hiding behind won't shelter you from.... The only facts that matter or will matter is whether the law/constitution has been knowingly/willingly violated or not, and the "not" chances dwindle daily, and to some of us, had few to zero chance of being the case from the beginning. That is where the goalpost started -- avid, less than civil defense of BHO -- and the why behind all the moving of it with non-germane BS about sources and their motivations. Even if "their" motives and ultimate goals aren't something we can or do agree with hardly means we do or should lack common ground. We just happen to agree that we like the same car rented, even if we have two different destinations in mind.
"I question" (and have for some time now) why it took so long for so many to realize there was/is a problem in need of a remedy, and "know" they are the last people to be listening to now. There's really only one plausible explanation to be found in the projections, and specifically the one about those alleged "godlike" beings Snowden and GG -- an inability from the start to even consider that BHO mighta given NS concerns more weight than privacy.
Hindsight is no replacement for foresight, but it's far better than the self-inflicted blindness I've seen outta many here.