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225. It does exactly that, it shows the corporate-military for what they are, tinny frightened fascists.

Sun Aug 18, 2013, 08:45 PM

Aug 2013

I have not reads any comments here yet but an curious how the pro-police-state few will defend this outrage.

The spooks have jumped the shark.

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Glenn Greenwald: "Detaining My Partner: A Failed Attempt at Intimidation" [View all] Hissyspit Aug 2013 OP

I think this is just plain intimidation. Autumn Aug 2013 #1

More than intimidation. They confiscated all his research data. That is theft. geckosfeet Aug 2013 #8

Intimidation, theft, thuggery. That's the New World Order. Who's next on their list? chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #52

Murder. It's a logical progression Demeter Aug 2013 #127

They've been there and done that before fujiyama Aug 2013 #259

I think they can stop the truth. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #169

Maybe they thought he feared "outing", to the extent he was outed. I, for one, did not know that silvershadow Aug 2013 #332

I would hope someone on the "intelligence" agency that decided to Autumn Aug 2013 #335

K&R MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #2

K&R pscot Aug 2013 #3

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #4

how convenient. Whisp Aug 2013 #5

dizzy yet? GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #6

One day you may come to understand why you can't be taken as a serious person DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #7

Hint: on EVERY story like this, it is best to not jump into 'See? I told you!' mode. randome Aug 2013 #11

The Guardian sent one of its own lawyers... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #37

didn't they botch up the first breaking story that GG gave them in some way? Whisp Aug 2013 #229

You're asking me to verify... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #240

oh, sorry, I must have mistaken you with someone who cared. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #244

Nah, you just tried to make a point... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #247

You should read and follow your advice. morningfog Aug 2013 #44

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I have no tune to change. I go where the facts warrant. randome Aug 2013 #70

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'Abusing their authority'? randome Aug 2013 #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #106

"It's very easy to cause cascading events because of a keying error." MyNameGoesHere Aug 2013 #149

Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #200

Oh please... cui bono Aug 2013 #228

I am saying ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #236

Oh, right... it's all about Obama. cui bono Aug 2013 #238

What are you talking about? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #242

You said 4 1/2 years ago... cui bono Aug 2013 #245

And that is what this place has become ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #299

Yes, again with the 4 1/2 years ago. What happened then? cui bono Aug 2013 #337

I told you ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2013 #348

Okay, what Dems attacking which Dems? cui bono Aug 2013 #353

Well, now you can go ahead and comment as we have confirmation from several extremely sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #269

I note that he didn't answer your post...hmmm U4ikLefty Aug 2013 #336

No, your previous post is a poorly disguised dismissal of the OP. cui bono Aug 2013 #227

"I don't care about being right." That's obvious. morningfog Aug 2013 #271

You definitely don't care about being right. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #315

Right, this never happened. To someone's partner who is a Public Figure now thanks to the sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #107

There is no doubt that Mr. Miranda was detained cali Aug 2013 #108

This story is confirmed by several sources LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #285

I will wait a couple days. You should too. Whisp Aug 2013 #12

Watch for Greenwald's updates... SidDithers Aug 2013 #14

yeh, he's just throwing bait out. Whisp Aug 2013 #16

If a government detained your spouse or your child Aerows Aug 2013 #24

I would never be in a position that Greenwald put himself in. Whisp Aug 2013 #30

I'm not bringing "your child" up Aerows Aug 2013 #39

The U.S. State Dept criticizes China for detaining family members of journalists. Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #61

The US didnt detain him Egnever Aug 2013 #76

I never said they did. But don't let that stop you from having Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #88

So you doubt this happened as described, but if it did, Greenwald brought it on himself? deurbano Aug 2013 #157

Just a rerun of a couple facts here: Whisp Aug 2013 #161

You weren't in hurry to fact-check this: Hissyspit Aug 2013 #176

what? Whisp Aug 2013 #181

Read through the thread. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #183

that was how long ago? and you still stay up at night over it? Whisp Aug 2013 #188

You are disingenuous and a poor propagandist,. hold out for the truth as long as you want,. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #234

Well, you're not a journalist, so of course you wouldn't be. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #171

whisp is Canadian? nt grasswire Aug 2013 #34

yes, I am. Whisp Aug 2013 #45

I just find it curious. grasswire Aug 2013 #63

I have seen people from all around the world here. Whisp Aug 2013 #119

People generally have a stake in things JimDandy Aug 2013 #135

really now. you think I'm arranging an invasion from Canada? Whisp Aug 2013 #147

Wow. NEVER said anything about an invasion JimDandy Aug 2013 #152

You have every right to be here. Puglover Aug 2013 #235

Well said. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #279

Excellent point n/t Peregrine Took Aug 2013 #196

The whole world has a stake in American policies, so we do comment LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #284

I am also a dual (British)-Canadian citizen with relatively little knowledge of the politics LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #286

They'd rather hear about how much snowden loves Russia.. Cha Aug 2013 #153

omg. that's true! Russia = GooOOOOOd, Canada = Where Whisp lives! must be baaaaaD..... Whisp Aug 2013 #155

I'm a furiner in the teabagger sense of the word since Pres Obama Cha Aug 2013 #160

This US citizen loves Canada. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #172

I wouldn't think it was about me treestar Aug 2013 #262

Waiting and seeing would be just fine. Obviously, that's not what you chose to do. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #18

everything is a conpiracy theory here these days. Whisp Aug 2013 #22

You are of course welcome to hold that opinion DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #28

+ 1000. Darn you beat me to it! n/t JimDandy Aug 2013 #87

I am making my own conclusions as to the veracity of Greenwalds story Whisp Aug 2013 #148

You know... Hissyspit Aug 2013 #180

he does take donations, it's right there in one of his Guardian pieces Whisp Aug 2013 #184

Wow, what a scam. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #186

It's an interesting way for 'journalists' to be paid, don't you think? Whisp Aug 2013 #189

So he's asking for donations Hissyspit Aug 2013 #193

I am assuming his donation list is private. Whisp Aug 2013 #201

"Making my own conclusions" is the direct opposite of "waiting a couple of days" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #191

I am taking fun guesses now and will see whats what in a couple days... Whisp Aug 2013 #204

Because you are making a series of hilariously stupid posts? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #211

Do you believe that the UK government did not detain David Miranda? Aerows Aug 2013 #29

I will wait to hear more. I will not take Greenwald's word on anything Whisp Aug 2013 #33

Whose word would you take? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #75

jesus cripes get off that ledge. detainment camps? machine guns? Whisp Aug 2013 #112

Perhaps I just have more experience and more knowledge of history and can read the early JDPriestly Aug 2013 #125

Perhaps. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #129

UK's puppet government detains his partner... ocpagu Aug 2013 #142

^ Exactly. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #115

We all know how this works quakerboy Aug 2013 #98

how very productive Swagman Aug 2013 #162

+1 you got it treestar Aug 2013 #263

Your guarantee is worthless tazkcmo Aug 2013 #352

no kidding fascisthunter Aug 2013 #177

Now hush.... don't bring thoughts whistler162 Aug 2013 #15

Flamingdem is that you? Aerows Aug 2013 #19

Oh my God. This is just embarassing. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #21

I know! I'm not sure if you are a fan of GGs but if you are, you should Whisp Aug 2013 #26

Well that didn't take long... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #32

But don't call them Authoritarians! Maedhros Aug 2013 #325

Maybe this, maybe that: Hissyspit Aug 2013 #35

now why would GG have that privilege of making shit up Whisp Aug 2013 #41

I thought you were waiting for the facts? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #48

yeh, i'm pretty sure David didn't really do the chicken thing at the airport... Whisp Aug 2013 #51

The Guardian website tracks cookies. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #60

awww, cookies. I bet they are sweet. I mean how can a cookie be bad? Whisp Aug 2013 #116

It's an amazingly silly, ridiculous diversion attempt. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #173

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It's called hypocrisy, dear. cali Aug 2013 #110

so you think I really really thought that David made chicken noises at the airport... Whisp Aug 2013 #132

noted fascisthunter Aug 2013 #178

Whoosh...... Fuddnik Aug 2013 #53

Please employ some critical thinking here. cali Aug 2013 #105

+1000 CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #166

"Glennie" has real balls, something the POTUS lacks despite having had many opportunities to show plug3 Aug 2013 #207

Good attempt at creating yet another CT. Any thoughts on game consoles and USB drives? idwiyo Aug 2013 #254

why did the poor sot think he'd could just trapse around with stolen government documents? Whisp Aug 2013 #255

Why, according to another CT it's because they are plotting to install Libertarian Overlords idwiyo Aug 2013 #267

Ah, it's a plot! AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #278

What? This is one of the most bizarre conspiracy theories I've ever seen LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #280

Your posts "For all we know" are showing a desperation. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #304

These confiscations are problematic dickthegrouch Aug 2013 #9

Under Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act of 2000 officers are permitted to confiscate Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #10

When they get it back.. if functional, it will be loaded with spyware and firmware. nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #71

Well that would be very informative JimDandy Aug 2013 #117

All of the electronics are likely tampered with and therefore should be discarded. n/t NOVA_Dem Aug 2013 #23

hell, evidence could be planted somewhere grasswire Aug 2013 #42

Parallel construction OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #156

yikes grasswire Aug 2013 #174

K&R liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #13

I really don't like this guy - damn libertarian - HOWEVER Triana Aug 2013 #17

He's not a Libertarian octoberlib Aug 2013 #179

Tx for the info! Triana Aug 2013 #256

Well, that's his side of things anyway. He's got the articles to back him up. octoberlib Aug 2013 #261

+1 Little Star Aug 2013 #260

Calling Greenwald a "Libertarian" just makes you look bad. Maedhros Aug 2013 #327

Detaining and threatening his partner Aerows Aug 2013 #20

It must be a mistake! I read on DU that this is all 'hype'! Rex Aug 2013 #31

Quite Aerows Aug 2013 #329

But perhaps a watershed moment for some? Maedhros Aug 2013 #328

Wake-up call that this isn't right and has gone too far. N/T Aerows Aug 2013 #330

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LOL This guy is a tool Egnever Aug 2013 #27

Do you have anything to say about the detention of his partner? friendly_iconoclast Aug 2013 #38

Not at the moment I will wait for the rest of the story Egnever Aug 2013 #47

You see lots of good reasons to detain Greenwald's partner? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #69

LOL Egnever Aug 2013 #81

Yes. ocpagu Aug 2013 #128

He wasn't arrested he was detained and questioned and released Egnever Aug 2013 #141

Miranda and his partner Greenwald are two different people, you know? grasswire Aug 2013 #308

What about relatives? Why stop at just his partner? Vinnie From Indy Aug 2013 #96

I would argue it would be incredibly stupid for any of them to go traipsing around the world Egnever Aug 2013 #118

It is stupid from them... ocpagu Aug 2013 #139

So now Great Britain is an authoritarian puppet government with no regard for human rights Egnever Aug 2013 #143

Yep. Pretty much that. Why? Did you fall for the official propaganda of "democracy" etc? n/t ocpagu Aug 2013 #154

I am truly amazed to see a DUer saying what you are now saying muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #195

LOL Egnever Aug 2013 #219

You are the perfect definition... ocpagu Aug 2013 #265

Hey I can play that game too Egnever Aug 2013 #266

Britain? The nation that launched a war of aggression in 2003? JackRiddler Aug 2013 #272

No, but it's not the complete opposite either LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #281

I have no problem with that statement whatsoever. Egnever Aug 2013 #288

I certainly don't think we have the most despotic government on the planet or even close... LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #290

you're not fooling anyone. nt grasswire Aug 2013 #43

I wasnt aware I was trying to fool anyone Egnever Aug 2013 #49

And any of that justifies the British government's abuse how? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #54

abuse? Egnever Aug 2013 #57

Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #58

I see so your outrage is based on the name of the law and not its contents Egnever Aug 2013 #65

No, I'm not. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #66

Ridiculous is screaming Its schedule 7 terrorism they are abusing it! Egnever Aug 2013 #72

I just read it about an hour ago. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #85

Oh you did? So why dont you point out to me where it limits itself to detaining terrorists Egnever Aug 2013 #122

"LONDON (Reuters) - British authorities used anti-terrorism powers to detain the partner of a journa Hissyspit Aug 2013 #170

I see you completely avoided the question Egnever Aug 2013 #192

Fucking garbage law. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #194

I agree the law is over broad IMHO Egnever Aug 2013 #216

They held him for 9 hours. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #94

GB is hardly a hostile country Egnever Aug 2013 #114

GB is a hostile country as is the US to many countries in the world. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #134

"We need to have the ability to look at a situation from different points of view" Egnever Aug 2013 #150

He was detained under the terrorism laws. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #190

Sorry but I dissagree Egnever Aug 2013 #210

How do you prove the chilling effect? JDPriestly Aug 2013 #289

A difficult question Egnever Aug 2013 #292

I agree with you. But what you consider sensationalizing, I consider to be raising awareness. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #293

Fair enough Egnever Aug 2013 #294

It'll be "torture" before long treestar Aug 2013 #264

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Nope Egnever Aug 2013 #59

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #62

Well gee I dont know why they would detain him Egnever Aug 2013 #68

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Of course you will Egnever Aug 2013 #89

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it would appear that you have already made a judgment frylock Aug 2013 #86

Yup I judge Greenwald to be an attention whore with little interest in the truth. Egnever Aug 2013 #126

oh, i have.. frylock Aug 2013 #306

Then start a thread with "an actual fact-based discussion" Union Scribe Aug 2013 #121

And no one is forcing you to read my posts in this thread Egnever Aug 2013 #136

So instead of saying what you want Union Scribe Aug 2013 #144

Says the guy whining about a post in a thread he didnt create Egnever Aug 2013 #151

I think someone else is the tool MNBrewer Aug 2013 #167

Your logic needs help. "I think there is plenty of room for actual improvement in oversight of the rhett o rick Aug 2013 #303

Two...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #36

Wait! I bet he just had a faulty fuel guage! hootinholler Aug 2013 #40

They're getting desperate trying to silence the whistle blowers. And, way too obvious. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #46

The last paragraph is absolutely correct. This kind of abuse will only emphasize how dangerous sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #50

+1 Excellent point leftstreet Aug 2013 #74

Disgusting. AzDar Aug 2013 #55

He flew in from Russia with a "laptop, his cellphone, various video game consuls, DVDs, USB sticks, ucrdem Aug 2013 #64

what business is it of the British government's? grasswire Aug 2013 #73

Bolivian? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #165

yeh, Bolivian. He is the only surviver of that airplane Obama 'downed'.... n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #239

So? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #77

So that's a lot of electronics to be flying with internationally ucrdem Aug 2013 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2013 #120

Um no, he flew in from Berlin and yes.... Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #84

From Russia?? burnodo Aug 2013 #90

Oh my dear God, DVDs you say? Union Scribe Aug 2013 #123

In the hands of a trained "suspected terrorist", a DVD can be used to decapitate a victim! Dragonfli Aug 2013 #291

How could I have forgotten the flying death disk? Union Scribe Aug 2013 #342

So you are maintaining that the UK was justified in detaining Miranda? Or were they HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #131

I thought he flew in from Berlin. deurbano Aug 2013 #175

This is not about customs. He was in transit at the airport muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #202

It sounds like somebody rolled the dice and lost. ucrdem Aug 2013 #218

Is that 'sounds like in the real world' or 'sounds like in the world ucrdem made up'? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #222

He could have read the docs that print with the ticket, for example. ucrdem Aug 2013 #226

Hang on, you're the one still stuck in the middle 20th century muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #241

I think you're confusing yourself. nt ucrdem Aug 2013 #282

Assuming you have some integrity left, you would correct your post from Russia to Berlin. idwiyo Aug 2013 #357

American thugs and their British poodles. n/t ocpagu Aug 2013 #78

How long before they break into the embassy and grab Assange? Octafish Aug 2013 #79

V for Vendetta... Alive and well in the UK! nt TheBlackAdder Aug 2013 #80

1) David is not a journalist,& 2) it's possible/CONCEIVABLE he was a "mule" for stolen security data UTUSN Aug 2013 #83

The intimidation works both ways? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #95

What I said was what I said; what you said is what you said. n/t UTUSN Aug 2013 #101

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It's interesting that the UK detained Greenwald's 'courier' JimDandy Aug 2013 #277

David Miranda detention: MP asks police for explanation muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #295

Apparently, Parliament did NOT know the Terrorist Act could be used in that way. JimDandy Aug 2013 #307

The police used to say it must only be used for counter-terrorism: muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #309

Miranda traveled to Berlin to work with Laura Poitras on a documentary. Maedhros Aug 2013 #331

kerry and his state dept looking like fucking idiots once again frylock Aug 2013 #91

What does Kerry have to do with this? ucrdem Aug 2013 #283

The UK is not a puppet of the US Progressive dog Aug 2013 #97

This is some sort of justification?? burnodo Aug 2013 #104

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Tell that to British Iraq vets. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #145

I get it, all the Iraqi vets think they're US puppets Progressive dog Aug 2013 #326

Ahem. Union Scribe Aug 2013 #341

Cool, circular logic again Progressive dog Aug 2013 #343

Greenwald's response was very measured. JimDandy Aug 2013 #146

If I were he, I would either Progressive dog Aug 2013 #324

Because I couldn't have said it any better: JimDandy Aug 2013 #351

That does prove a point, the nine hour detention in the UK Progressive dog Aug 2013 #355

All real journalists use their partners to smuggle Progressive dog Aug 2013 #356

UK isn't but our dear government sure as hell is. Forgot abour Poodle? idwiyo Aug 2013 #231

Poodle? Poodle? Poodle? nt Progressive dog Aug 2013 #322

Incorrect. The U.K. was, in fact, a puppet of the U.S. in this instance: JimDandy Aug 2013 #270

I'll bet the UK would like to know they're just Progressive dog Aug 2013 #321

They already know. JimDandy Aug 2013 #349

European Convention on Human Rights: ocpagu Aug 2013 #102

This was intimidation.... Swede Atlanta Aug 2013 #103

It appears you were correct! JimDandy Aug 2013 #275

The stakes rise, and the masks fall away... GliderGuider Aug 2013 #109

They wouldn't do this to a Tea Party type advocating the overthrow of the government by guns. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #111

once a gain the cheerleaders for the authoritarian state are applauding.. surprise, surprise, Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #130

We don't know the whole story yet Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #138

These tactics are absolutely disgusting and frightening. closeupready Aug 2013 #137

Totally outrageous. Bolo Boffin Aug 2013 #140

Anti-terrorism agents putting hard earned tax dollars to work. Ash_F Aug 2013 #158

This is why the govt cannot be trusted with collecting info on innocent persons. boston bean Aug 2013 #159

Several explanations come to mind Babel_17 Aug 2013 #163

Sounds like either a deliberate provocation by Miranda or he was meeting someone at Heathrow FarCenter Aug 2013 #164

So? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #182

His existence is now provocative? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #206

If Greenwald or Poitras arrived at Heathrow, they would probably be detained and arrested. FarCenter Aug 2013 #213

Since they are American, and received information from an American about the workings of the NSA muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #215

Greenwald has published information about GCHQ operations, means, and methods FarCenter Aug 2013 #221

"Greenwald's activities can be considered as aiding terrorists" muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #224

What matters would be how the UK courts view Greenwald's activities. FarCenter Aug 2013 #230

Guardian reporters and editors in Britain work on the stories muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #243

Greenwald, not his partner. Hissyspit Aug 2013 #248

His partner was acting as a go between and co-conspirator with Greenwald and Poitras. FarCenter Aug 2013 #250

"co-conspirator"??? grasswire Aug 2013 #311

To have a co-conspirator... ocpagu Aug 2013 #317

Conspiring with Poitras to acquire and publish UK official secrets FarCenter Aug 2013 #320

on what charge would they be arrested? grasswire Aug 2013 #310

Publishing information about GCHQ that is protected by the Official Secrets Act FarCenter Aug 2013 #319

Luckily for people, charges can't be made up, like you just did muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #334

Section 6 FarCenter Aug 2013 #338

Nothing here applies to Mr. Miranda. Not even one of all these items. ocpagu Aug 2013 #339

They would apply to Mr Greenwald, and to Mr Miranda if he is aiding Mr Greenwald FarCenter Aug 2013 #340

A connecting flight is a "deliberate provocation"? That's pathetic. wtmusic Aug 2013 #237

Cool Conspiracy Theory! Don't forget to add little green aliens and chemtrails for a good measure! idwiyo Aug 2013 #252

Do you see what is going on here. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #168

Gov has used these tactics on journalists for a long time. Sunlei Aug 2013 #185

And the people here defending this wonder why they are called "Authoritarian Apologists?" RetroLounge Aug 2013 #187

No one is "defending" it. Arkana Aug 2013 #198

Some are just in this thread implying massive conspiracy by Greenwald Hissyspit Aug 2013 #212

I suggest you reread the thread RetroLounge Aug 2013 #268

This is why I don't post anymore wtbymark Aug 2013 #199

Glad to see you picked an important OP JimDandy Aug 2013 #273

"they spent their time interrogating him about the NSA reporting " Catherina Aug 2013 #197

Glenn Gantry "reporting" gulliver Aug 2013 #203

AP: Partner of Reporter at Center of NSA Leak Detained Hissyspit Aug 2013 #208

Reuters: UK Detains Partner of Journalist Linked to Snowden Hissyspit Aug 2013 #209

Thanks for the link. gulliver Aug 2013 #214

Yes, "completely valid." Hissyspit Aug 2013 #298

pardon me, but what crime has Greenwald committed? grasswire Aug 2013 #312

CBS News: Partner of Glenn Greenwald, the journalist who broke the NSA leak story, was detained at Hissyspit Aug 2013 #220

"Brazilian Government Expresses Grave Concern..." Hissyspit Aug 2013 #205

HUGE K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #217

All that stuff they seized is pricy and so is traveling.... I hope this guy makes a good living... midnight Aug 2013 #223

The Guardian paid for his trip. FarCenter Aug 2013 #232

This is actually really sounding like a clown show for the Bleevers. Whisp Aug 2013 #246

And why would they send encrypted files on physical media via a courier? FarCenter Aug 2013 #249

I'm wondering if he had any trouble getting TO Poitras with all those gadgets... Whisp Aug 2013 #253

???? grasswire Aug 2013 #313

It does exactly that, it shows the corporate-military for what they are, tinny frightened fascists. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #225

NYT says Miranda was carrying Snowden documents to Greenwald. Catherina Aug 2013 #233

Good. That means we have them. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #251

Um... Didn't we always have them??? cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #257

No--I think what was confiscated was more than merely what he stole. msanthrope Aug 2013 #258

Im sure that was their excuse AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #276

I think so too. That sentence is totally unsourced, just sandwiched in there. Catherina Aug 2013 #287

Burgeoning POLICE STATE ... blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #274

Yeah but look at the upgrade it produced! JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #296

You know... Hissyspit Aug 2013 #297

I will bring substance when I feel like it. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #302

"I will bring substance when I feel like it." sibelian Aug 2013 #323

Could it be because of this? shawn703 Aug 2013 #300

k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #301

"Intimidation" is a bit over-the-top IMO Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #305

"One U.S. security official told Reuters that one of the main purposes of the British government's Hissyspit Aug 2013 #345

Glenn, you "journalist" come out from behind that curtain baronjake Aug 2013 #314

WTF? ocpagu Aug 2013 #316

This is very representative of the group that hates Greenwald DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #318

It's not about Greenwald obxhead Aug 2013 #344

+1 Starry Messenger Aug 2013 #354

What the fuck are you going on about? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #347

STFU Greenwald... SoapBox Aug 2013 #333

What the fuck are you going on about? Hissyspit Aug 2013 #346

Gosh, I'd hate to see you drop your Guardian subscription over this. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #350