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freshwest

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19. Link posted on Kitty Wampus' thread by Egnever:
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:54 AM
Aug 2013
Britain Detains the Partner of a Reporter Tied to Leaks

...Mr. Greenwald said someone who identified himself as a security official from Heathrow Airport called him early on Sunday and informed him that Mr. Miranda had been detained, at that point for three hours. The British authorities, he said, told Mr. Miranda that they would obtain permission from a judge to arrest him for 48 hours, but he was released at the end of the nine hours, around 1 p.m. Eastern time.

Mr. Miranda was in Berlin to deliver documents related to Mr. Greenwald’s investigation into government surveillance to Ms. Poitras, Mr. Greenwald said. Ms. Poitras, in turn, gave Mr. Miranda different documents to pass to Mr. Greenwald. Those documents, which were stored on encrypted thumb drives, were confiscated by airport security, Mr. Greenwald said. All of the documents came from the trove of materials provided to the two journalists by Mr. Snowden. The British authorities seized all of his electronic media — including video games, DVDs and data storage devices — and did not return them, Mr. Greenwald said...


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/19/world/europe/britain-detains-partner-of-reporter-tied-to-leaks.html?_r=0

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023487282#post25

Note the abundance of the 'Mr. Greenwald said' in the article. Of course, he is available for comment but wisely out of reach, or rather out of touch otherwise. But you gotta understand where he's coming from:

It’s Hip! It’s Cool! It’s Libertarianism!

...Today, the ruling class knows that they’ve lost the culture wars... libertarianism is their last ditch effort to ensure a succession to the throne... With such a bleak economic forecast for the Millennials, it shouldn’t surprise anyone that our elites want to make “libertarianism” shorthand for “political disaffection.” Now there’s a demographic with some growth potential. And it’s inspired a lot of poorly-sourced, speculative babble about how “the kids have all gone Galt,” almost always through the personal anecdotes of young white men...

None of this should be too surprising. For almost two decades, roughly two-thirds of the American public have supported what we’d call a moderate European welfare state—putting the average U.S. citizen significantly to the left of the Democratic party...

Here’s the real reason libertarians hate the idea. The welfare state is a check against servility towards the rich. A strong welfare state would give us the power to say Fuck You to our bosses - this is the power to say “I’m gonna work odd jobs for twenty hours a week while I work on my driftwood sculptures and play keyboards in my chillwave band. And I’ll still be able to go to the doctor and make rent.”

Sounds like freedom to me.


http://exiledonline.com/its-hip-its-cool-its-libertarianism/

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021055465

Love the Exiled piece there.

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There is no evidence that Miranda was carrying stolen docs. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #1
Apart from Greenwald saying he was? n/t sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #12
Apart from "journalists" FALSELY claiming that Greenwald knew there were "stolen documents" on it cascadiance Aug 2013 #15
Sadly, people do not have decent reading comprehension skills anymore. Bonobo Aug 2013 #18
"wait for more facts to emerge" Hekate Aug 2013 #2
LOL ! n/t jaysunb Aug 2013 #7
Hell, no, what's the fun in that? freshwest Aug 2013 #16
... Rex Aug 2013 #29
What information? And, why is it classified? By whom? Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #3
Link Please !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #4
... Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #5
If you are going to Play with the big boy spies you need to be Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #9
For starters keep Whistle Blowers cyclezealot Aug 2013 #38
Sometimes incidents are for show, some gets mileage out of doing moves like this. Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #44
We Knew This, Didn't We ??? - Snowden Took The Info And Gave It To The Press... WillyT Aug 2013 #10
Do you believe there is a 'dead-man's switch'? randome Aug 2013 #50
I Do... And I Have A Feeling We're Gonna Find Out Sooner Rather Than Later... WillyT Aug 2013 #51
That does NOT indicate the documents were stolen. fasttense Aug 2013 #56
Time will tell, if there was stolen information then it is apparent GG Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #6
The drives are probably just random data. nebenaube Aug 2013 #52
What the hell were they thinking?! Or were they? Cha Aug 2013 #8
Greenwald got his news cycle and the Guardian got its page views n/t sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #13
Exactly, it is about keeping GG in the news, I don't think I would be happy to carry his bags, Thinkingabout Aug 2013 #46
Nailed it...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #54
I gave it the 72 hour sniff test Warpy Aug 2013 #11
Yes! How Dare We Learn the Truth about NSA Surveillance, Cali_Democrat AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #14
Convicted and sentenced to 9 hrs detention. tblue Aug 2013 #28
Wait. So now we let people with stolen classified information go? progressoid Aug 2013 #17
Or we let others SLANDER people claiming that they have stolen information with NO proof go? cascadiance Aug 2013 #24
Link posted on Kitty Wampus' thread by Egnever: freshwest Aug 2013 #19
They will have to prove that the encrypted documents were stolen. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #20
Snowden's husband? Turborama Aug 2013 #23
Yes, he is gay. Which is probably a good reason he's not in Russia with Snowden at all. n/t cascadiance Aug 2013 #25
Snowdon's husband would have to be gay, seeing as Snowdan is a man. Turborama Aug 2013 #27
Ah shoot... Missed that the comment was on Snowden and not Glen Greenwald... cascadiance Aug 2013 #33
Sorry. Greenwald's husband. Typo. Sorry for the confusion. Mea culpa. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #35
Worth making a signature DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #40
Is that just your proclamation or do you have any evidence with links? n/t cui bono Aug 2013 #21
K & R SunSeeker Aug 2013 #22
Then why did they release him? tblue Aug 2013 #26
Wouldn't it be ironic if he Miranda got special treatment and was released... SidDithers Aug 2013 #57
"I see plans within plans." ZRT2209 Aug 2013 #30
the truth is going to emerge... dtom67 Aug 2013 #31
Yes, the facts are still emerging Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #32
"This was obviously designed to send a message of intimidation to those of us working journalistical Hissyspit Aug 2013 #39
Talking points are "facts," not facts. eShirl Aug 2013 #34
How do they know it was stolen classified information if it is encrypted? DeSwiss Aug 2013 #36
Lay off, DeSwiss. Bonobo Aug 2013 #42
Ouch :) -nt- Celefin Aug 2013 #74
the drooling at the mouth of the enemies Swagman Aug 2013 #37
There is no evidence whatsoever that Miranda was carrying stolen info. nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #41
Until the info is decrypted...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #60
How to explain the claim that there were stolen docs when it was encrypted? Bonobo Aug 2013 #65
Suspected to contain stolen docs... SidDithers Aug 2013 #66
So why did the NYT print that it contained stolen docs from Snowden? nt Bonobo Aug 2013 #67
If only they read this article..... Historic NY Aug 2013 #43
You think he is a terrorist? nt boston bean Aug 2013 #45
LOL Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #73
You are so smart. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #47
The truth is some can't buy a clue Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #48
EPIC FAIL (Right up there with that infamous 'map' thread). You should HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #49
I've been reading about "maps" on a few threads Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #58
OMG - It happened shortly after I started posting here when the HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #64
OMG Celefin Aug 2013 #77
The truth always comes out later, when Greenwald is involved... SidDithers Aug 2013 #53
The Sunday News Dump... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #55
You're right, he had his partner detained on Sunday on purpose. nt Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #62
Who Knows... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #69
You're the one speculating, but okay I'll play. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #70
That's As Good As Any... KharmaTrain Aug 2013 #71
I can agree with you on that. Waiting For Everyman Aug 2013 #72
Glenn is pretty powerful Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #63
Yes, the "emerging truth" is always better than truth. You know, old truth. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #59
So its more or less a clown show all the way around... bhikkhu Aug 2013 #61
At the rate the garbage is flying out of the corporate media outlets nolabels Aug 2013 #68
K & R Scurrilous Aug 2013 #75
Well, the TRUTHINESS is beginning to emerge. Common Sense Party Aug 2013 #76
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