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DonCoquixote

(13,970 posts)
19. The ugly truth
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 07:05 AM
Aug 2013

The right is made up of many people that, if they had their way, would hang most of their comrades from trees, but they share a base hatred of the process of thinking, which keeps them from blowing away from each other. We, on the other hand, have the opposite issue, we are made of many groups that, if they had their way, would send everyone else to Gulags, but, since we emphasize thought, the pressure to blast apart is stronger.

I mean, Capitalists vs. Socialists vs Communists, Hillary Lovers versus Hillary haters, many of us found ourselves lumped into "Democrat" or "Liberal" because we had no other port in the storm. Now of course, we have had the illusion of winning because we have the Senate and WH. An illusion is what it was, as we realize that now, and as MannyGoldstein joked, what unites us now is that we are all more immune to the illusions, and demand something more solid than the props that have been hanging on the wall long after they needed to be torn down, props like Reid and Pelosi who still act supine to the GOP.

I do not despair, because frankly, it does not matter if we hate each other, any more than it matters to a bunch of cave dwellers trying not to freeze to death in a Blizzard. Americans tend to think they determine their identity, that they are the Captain of their souls, when often, circumstances define who we are, as the circumstances are turning to the point where will cannot help but work together against the fascist and the plutocrat. The issue is not if we will win, we have the numbers, it is whether or not we can stop the process by which we snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

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I think that it is a combination of those feeling left out as the "fringe left"... cascadiance Aug 2013 #1
And those of a more moderate persuasion feel left out cali Aug 2013 #4
I despise the name calling. The ad hominem. longship Aug 2013 #2
personal attacks DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #6
Maybe the admins ought to remind people about the TOS. longship Aug 2013 #9
ah yes DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #13
Yup! That's what I was about. longship Aug 2013 #18
IMO too many people are alerting to OPPOSE AN OPINION - warping opposition into a "personal attack." chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #28
Hell I had a poster wanting to argue with me for me saying British accent instead of Scottish. B Calm Aug 2013 #10
Never make that argument to a Scot, Laddie. longship Aug 2013 #11
You are one of the few who vote to hide personal attacks davidpdx Aug 2013 #20
I don't know how to do that. longship Aug 2013 #23
Well if you deleted them then that would make it hard davidpdx Aug 2013 #25
I have been on a couple as well 1awake Aug 2013 #24
Well, people on jury duty need to understand the TOS. longship Aug 2013 #27
Very true. AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #3
I want to support and elect Democrats DissidentVoice Aug 2013 #5
i disagree iamthebandfanman Aug 2013 #7
People need to stop taking the flame bait. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #8
Some put a lot of effort into it! JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #12
as long as I have been here it has been. Granted when George W. Bush was President there was a very Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #14
It's the nature of the beast KrazyinKS Aug 2013 #15
But your very premise is skewed CakeGrrl Aug 2013 #16
You forgot paid chills davidpdx Aug 2013 #22
Left out Authoritarian, DCLer, 3rd way-er ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #29
there is just as much of that going in the other direction cali Aug 2013 #34
Divisions among the group are good to a point liberal N proud Aug 2013 #17
The ugly truth DonCoquixote Aug 2013 #19
"A dem president has changed the dynamic to a certain degree" - I would say a lot geckosfeet Aug 2013 #21
When Hillary is the nominee there will be a purge unlike anything. joshcryer Aug 2013 #26
I would agree support for dem politicians/celebrities is often where chisels & wedges get inserted HereSince1628 Aug 2013 #30
Nothing has changed since 2001 other than the place has gotten bigger. last1standing Aug 2013 #31
Good points, cali. brer cat Aug 2013 #32
Saw a thread that referred to previous DU sites RitchieRich Aug 2013 #33
Heated, spirited exchange of ideas? (and sometimes insults?) bluedeathray Aug 2013 #35
Different issues produce different schisms. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #36
There's no time left for being civil. dawg Aug 2013 #37
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