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In reply to the discussion: If the NSA Humpers are correct about Miranda, the NSA is even more incompetent than I thought [View all]grasswire
(50,130 posts)8. technicality
We do not know what Miranda was carrying. The following sentence is not attributed by the reporter, although he attributed other sentences in the same paragraph.
All of the documents came from the trove of materials provided to the two journalists by Mr. Snowden.[/i
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If the NSA Humpers are correct about Miranda, the NSA is even more incompetent than I thought [View all]
Vinnie From Indy
Aug 2013
OP
Maybe. Or they are paranoid he may have something worse, but are unsure, and desperate to find out.
GoneFishin
Aug 2013
#2
Is it possible they knew exactly what Miranda had, and they detained him in order to get it back?
arcane1
Aug 2013
#15
If they knew what Miranda had, and that he had it, why wait 'til the airport to get it back? n/t
winter is coming
Aug 2013
#20
Is it possible that if he had what they wanted, that they would have charged him
notadmblnd
Aug 2013
#26
Did your brain hurt as you typed "Liberthoritarians"? That's chock full of cognitive dissonance. nt
Electric Monk
Aug 2013
#19
Here is a possibility: they did not detain him for NSA files but hoping they would find files
JDPriestly
Aug 2013
#22
Excellent comment and prob right. I still don't think they have any idea what Snowden has
Catherina
Aug 2013
#24
You convert nobody by disrespecting them so severely with terms like "humpers". nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#29
And those who are keeping open minds are not persuaded by such language. nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2013
#59
"... Mr. Miranda was in Berlin to deliver documents related to Mr. Greenwald’s investigation
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#33
I'll have to defer to experts on UK law regarding the actual scope of Schedule 7
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#61
(1) "Snowden has enough information to cause harm to the U.S. government in a single minute than any
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#68
(2) ... Mr. Miranda was in Berlin to deliver documents related to Mr. Greenwald’s investigation
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#69
(3) ... Greenwald ... said ... “I have many documents about England’s espionage system ..." ...
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#70
(4) I do not feel competent to discuss interpretation or scope of Schedule 7
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#71
(5) ... UK police can stop, examine and search passengers at ports, airports and international rail
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#72
(6) Terrorism Act 2000 definitions of "terrorism" seem to include "the use or threat of action ...
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#73
(7) Discussion. Some of Greenwald's remarks (e.g. #68) may be construed as threats; Snowden's
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#74
The standard for searching international travelers may often be somewhat lower
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#34
You will have to ask those who detained him, if you want a definitive answer. But perhaps
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#40
There's extensive passenger screening in some airports and for some flights after 9/11:
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#44
Well, you may want to look up the Passenger Name Record Agreement that the EU agreed to in 2012,
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#47
Do you have a copy of Schedule 7? It's possible, for example, that both (1) the public justification
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#36
Miranda was detained by UK authorities in the UK, not by US authorities
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#37
Snowden obtained his documents via a private contractor, so his acts do not necessarily
struggle4progress
Aug 2013
#38