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Nancy Waterman

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56. Same here

Mon Aug 19, 2013, 01:53 PM

Aug 2013

I didn't know he was gay until yesterday when the story about his partner came out. But I haven't much liked him for a very long time. Too full of himself and his own righteousness for my taste.

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I'm beginning to see the attacks on Greenwald, Miranda, Assange et al as homophobic slurs [View all] grasswire Aug 2013 OP

Makes about as much sense as suggesting that all of the JoePhilly Aug 2013 #1

well, good to see you admit that quinnox Aug 2013 #5

Some of the criticism certainly is ... but I would not attempt JoePhilly Aug 2013 #12

I put a 10% factor just because it is possible quinnox Aug 2013 #19

I would not argue with those numbers. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #25

OMG what a startling admission n/t leftstreet Aug 2013 #8

Right? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #17

What did I admit that was startling? JoePhilly Aug 2013 #18

Nothing Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #40

Yea, pretty much how I saw it. JoePhilly Aug 2013 #48

I hope you called out those who did that and all those who rec'd that false claim. I agree sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #94

First, I don't know that I've seen very many ... "All of the JoePhilly Aug 2013 #99

You left out Manning malaise Aug 2013 #2

+1, n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #85

character assassination always looks for some smear to hit on.... mike_c Aug 2013 #3

"How many times has Assange been disparaged for his sexual orientation?" geek tragedy Aug 2013 #4

Really? Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #6

Assange is gay?... SidDithers Aug 2013 #7

my apology grasswire Aug 2013 #11

Sure. But I don't think "rapist" falls in the spectrum...nt SidDithers Aug 2013 #21

''Rapist,'' as spun by those using a story from a CIA contact. Octafish Aug 2013 #43

Nawww. "Rapist" as spun by the British court that upheld the European Arrest Warrant... SidDithers Aug 2013 #53

What European court was that? Octafish Aug 2013 #81

I said British court, not European court SidDithers Aug 2013 #98

They're a joke, and a bad one at that. reusrename Aug 2013 #105

Sorry I did not know Britain was not in Europe, SidDithers. Octafish Aug 2013 #115

Uh, that's "alleged rapist." Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #63

Yes, he's only an "alleged rapist" until he goes to Sweden... SidDithers Aug 2013 #107

I am confident you will be. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #137

Also, what I started noticing is people calling Greenwald a "shyster" boston bean Aug 2013 #9

yeah, there's plenty of prejudice in the propaganda.. grasswire Aug 2013 #10

Not saying it didn't happen, but your post Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #15

I've seen it used quite often, and here is a link where I called it out: boston bean Aug 2013 #22

'Shyster' is completely anti-semitic. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #26

Shyster- a person who is professionally unscrupulous especially in the practice of law or politics KittyWampus Aug 2013 #58

You and your small cadre of unprincipled smear artists Maedhros Aug 2013 #108

Matt Hale: Neo-Nazi, Greenwald client, convicted for soliticing murder of FBI agent. DevonRex Aug 2013 #114

ok, and this makes it ok to use anti semitic slurs againt him, how? boston bean Aug 2013 #116

Who said that? What I've seen is people poo-poohing his voluntary DevonRex Aug 2013 #121

Devon, I really like and respect you. But we are going to have a difference of opinion boston bean Aug 2013 #123

Online Etimology and Wikipedia disagree about the origin of the word. DevonRex Aug 2013 #131

........ boston bean Aug 2013 #134

And when you hear about "dark secrets" in Obama's NSA ... frazzled Aug 2013 #13

+1 one_voice Aug 2013 #64

Of course it is. The Link Aug 2013 #14

Garbage. Where is a single post that would support your claim? nt pnwmom Aug 2013 #27

Notice anyone calling him GeeGee any more? The Link Aug 2013 #30

weak sauce bullshit! Whisp Aug 2013 #16

I have a thread for you---this might be what the OP means-- msanthrope Aug 2013 #24

o jeeze... Whisp Aug 2013 #46

So where is the homophobic-ness of that post? George II Aug 2013 #103

I called Assange "James Blond." Is that homophobic? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #20

I thought it was a play on ... one_voice Aug 2013 #68

Me, too--here, I am castigated for noting that OUT magazine used the word 'boyfriend' msanthrope Aug 2013 #74

I had no idea... one_voice Aug 2013 #97

disingenuous people can twist the meaning of things around Californeeway Aug 2013 #135

It certainly is not on DU. pnwmom Aug 2013 #23

weak defense, there nt grasswire Aug 2013 #29

No weaker than the offense. Where's a post that would support the OP? n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #31

give some examples. Whisp Aug 2013 #104

Oh... It's Gonna Get Worse... WillyT Aug 2013 #28

Lol cbdo2007 Aug 2013 #32

I thought Assange was charged in Sweden for refusing to use a condom with 2 women karynnj Aug 2013 #33

Really, this is overblown. pnwmom Aug 2013 #34

Exactly. I didn't know they were married either. That != homophobia. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #41

Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?! one_voice Aug 2013 #35

My gay family members and friends, would agree with the OP. boston bean Aug 2013 #38

Shocking. one_voice Aug 2013 #39

happened all the time, but not because of examples that actually are racist. boston bean Aug 2013 #44

Well I see this as a tactic to make some shut up... one_voice Aug 2013 #50

I think most would like some reflection, and look at it from their POV. boston bean Aug 2013 #54

Curious to know what your... one_voice Aug 2013 #73

I'm white, I don't have any black family members. boston bean Aug 2013 #76

Not questioning that at... one_voice Aug 2013 #89

I see people calling BO weak, and I think I may have been guilty of it myself. boston bean Aug 2013 #91

There are people who don't understand... one_voice Aug 2013 #95

I certainly do see hysterical as a negative stereotype of gay men. boston bean Aug 2013 #96

I guess because I use the word... one_voice Aug 2013 #100

Well, I wasn't yelling at you. I was making my opinion known, emphatically. boston bean Aug 2013 #109

I'm sorry I didn't mean it that.. one_voice Aug 2013 #117

"Shyster" is not antisemitic unless the person using the term tblue37 Aug 2013 #113

Hmmm... one_voice Aug 2013 #118

Because I am aware of the supposed antisemitic association, tblue37 Aug 2013 #128

That's pretty much... one_voice Aug 2013 #130

Yes, I think we both try to avoid being offensive, even if the cause of the tblue37 Aug 2013 #132

My Mexican cousin is offended by your username Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #52

Do your "gay family members" think being gay equals being hysterical KittyWampus Aug 2013 #55

My family thinks homophobic stereotypes exist. boston bean Aug 2013 #60

Russia Behind the Aegis Aug 2013 #70

Thank you. Well said. stevenleser Aug 2013 #77

Boom goes the one_voice Aug 2013 #79

+1 Hekate Aug 2013 #88

Mahalo, Behind the Aegis! nm Cha Aug 2013 #119

Agreed my friend. Puglover Aug 2013 #122

Not everything is a homophobic conspiracy unless you are looking for homophobic OregonBlue Aug 2013 #36

I had no idea wercal Aug 2013 #37

Assange is not gay, he's an alleged rapist of Swedish women. MADem Aug 2013 #110

Well then the OP is indignant about something he is just imagining wercal Aug 2013 #124

No biggie--don't let it worry ya! MADem Aug 2013 #125

That does ring a Bell Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #42

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #45

I find this sad to be honest Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #47

What? Using the bogus assertion of homophobia because you can't handle having your illusions KittyWampus Aug 2013 #51

LOL! I didn't even know Greenwald was gay until a week ago. And Gay does NOT equal "hysterical" KittyWampus Aug 2013 #49

Same here Nancy Waterman Aug 2013 #56

Good point Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #62

I knew greenwald is Gay but that has nothing to do with why Cha Aug 2013 #120

It ocassionally happens by our less than upstanding citizens progressoid Aug 2013 #57

Oh, and Assange is a rapist but I don't think he is gay. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #59

I didn't realize Assange had been convicted of anything. But stay on your high road. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #65

he's a coward hiding in an embassy. How could he be convicted? KittyWampus Aug 2013 #66

Still waitin' for all the facts to come in, I see. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #75

He hasn't. But when a person avoids a trial on rape charges, pnwmom Aug 2013 #69

Like being gay is somehow on the same level as being a rapist. boston bean Aug 2013 #67

Nobody said being gay is the same thing as being a rapist Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #71

He's not gay, he's a rapist... nt boston bean Aug 2013 #72

Was the OP processing what he was writing? Hekate Aug 2013 #82

Generally, in the West, we consider people innocent until proven guilty of crimes they are accused quinnox Aug 2013 #83

Calling him "GiGi" for short. Quantess Aug 2013 #61

All those attacks come from one camp whose Cleita Aug 2013 #78

Jury results: SaveOurDemocracy Aug 2013 #80

I don't agree. BlueCheese Aug 2013 #84

Attention Grabbing Is Not A Homophobic Slur otohara Aug 2013 #86

I'm surprised it took this long. JNelson6563 Aug 2013 #87

I remember in '11 they were blaming gay voters for '10, but the backdraft put an end to that MisterP Aug 2013 #90

Well, I did see one comment that made me wonder, considering the source of the comment has a sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #92

Even though I support Greenwald and Snowden 100% LittleBlue Aug 2013 #93

There's one big stinking problem with your "theory" there.... MADem Aug 2013 #101

Utterly ridiculous, that is REALLY stretching to create a "story" - isn't Assange heterosexual? George II Aug 2013 #102

Definitely . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #106

i see it occasionally Enrique Aug 2013 #111

""Latin America is but a cyst on the anus of the world." Is the quote. How is that a defense of Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #133

Assange? Helen Borg Aug 2013 #112

That has always been an element of it Aerows Aug 2013 #126

Here is one of the first of the 'Greenwald is gay!!!' threads, from 2011. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #127

I think there are a few who have used homophobic terminology but not many. last1standing Aug 2013 #129

The only thing stopping openly homophobic slurs JoeyT Aug 2013 #136