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JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
15. Sure it does.
Mon Aug 19, 2013, 02:00 PM
Aug 2013

I hate cell phones and only use them when forced to and mine has 30 numbers in it. Assuming each of those have the same amount of numbers (All of them actually have far more) that's 900 people on the first hop, 27000 on the second.

That would mean they'd only need to think 75 people were of interest before they hit the 2 million mark. Two and a half people a day.

And those are absolute lowball numbers. I know people with better than two hundred numbers in their phone. At that rate it would take one person of interest every four days to hit the 2 million mark.

It would also depend on what they're calling a "hop". If a suspected terrorist called, for the sake of example, HP tech support, is everyone that called HP tech support now considered 2 hops from the terrorist? Given how much they're willing to stretch the laws, it wouldn't really surprise me.

FWIW at the rate of 30 numbers per cell phone, it would take pretty close to 10% of the number of terror suspects leveymg gave to spy on every man, woman, and child in the US. Twice that many suspects would be enough to spy on every man, woman, and child on Earth.

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It can actually be worse to use a "secure" email service... last1standing Aug 2013 #1
Interesting point 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #3
Along with encrypted messages and documents. leveymg Aug 2013 #9
according what you mean by Cryptoad Aug 2013 #12
To be a "meta data point" in a haystack of "meta data points." MADem Aug 2013 #22
Not sending one probably fucks them though. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #2
I hear smoke signals are enjoying a new popularity as well. eom 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #4
I hadn't thought of those dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #6
Mouth to Ear ,,,,, best way Cryptoad Aug 2013 #13
They are indeed hootinholler Aug 2013 #10
OMG - You're serious. And, it works. ;-) leveymg Aug 2013 #19
An April fool's joke carried into the absurd hootinholler Aug 2013 #21
People seem to forget the internet was a government funded, Historic NY Aug 2013 #5
I remember 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #7
NSA has a list of 112,000 terror suspects. In addition there were 64,000 LE admin subpoenas issued leveymg Aug 2013 #8
That sounds like Cryptoad Aug 2013 #14
Sure it does. JoeyT Aug 2013 #15
Thats what i said ,,,,it dont add up... Cryptoad Aug 2013 #20
K&R. No one's safe. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #11
Snail mail might be more secure LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #16
When the IC wants to send sensitive (but not classified) documents, they use the U.S. Mail :-) leveymg Aug 2013 #17
It might be a good idea for the Post Office workers to do an ad pushing it. LiberalFighter Aug 2013 #18
People's reaction to the NSA drip drip story exposes underthematrix Aug 2013 #23
. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #24
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