AP IMPACT: study suggests drones kill far fewer civilians than many Pakistanis believe

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31. When we're attacked, then we should wage war.

That hasn't happened since Dec 7th 1941.

Many people see us as having been attacked FROM FORCES OUTSIDE OUR NATION on Nine Eleven. However, I don't. But even if it was a direct attack, an attack that Gosh oh gee whiz, happened, despite the thirty one trillions of dollars we had spent so our air force jets could get off the ground and stop such attacks, and despite the memo to George Bush and Rumsfeld delivered first week of August, 2001, and despite the messages sent to us by the German Ministry, and other nations, there is still no way the events of Nine Eleven could implicate the nation and the people of the nation, of Iraq. They had done nothing against us.

Yet we fought a war against that nation. Why? We not only fought a war against that nation, we followed the same plan we had in Vietnam - the plan of "Let's have a war, but let's not have a strategy by which we will win that war." Our strategy in Iraq was rather dismal - we simply put our service people into unarmored HumVees and sent them up and down dangerous highways, till some one vehicle in the convoy was taken out by IED's. And then the survivors made short work of the folks who had launched the IED? Is that a military strategy?

I very much believe that there are spiritual beliefs at work. One of the things i was taught in first or second grade by the nuns, that resonated as being true was that whatever we as a society agree to do, will resonate for the next three generations. It is a saying in the Bible, can't remember where. (And I don't take on every thing that the Bible says, but this one pie4ce of it is instructive.)

The American Indians believed that what a society agrees to do resonates for seven generations. And that culture was thousands of miles away from the one of the ancient Israelis that oversaw the writing of the Bible. Yet the belief was the same, except the Indians believe our actions last much longer than three generations.

If we need to fight a war,t hen everyone should have to go and fight. Everyone. That is one of the things i have admired about the nation of Israel. Wars should be fought by the collective as a whole, with even the fifty year olds having to put on the combat boots and go fight.

Right now, as a society, we are not making it. We are dying. Peopel are losing their homes, people are laid off from work, people are committing suicide.

Certainly, it is not on account of some religious fundamentalists in the hills of Pakistan that my friends are suffering. It is because of our financial "leaders" and those in the Political Class, who' re slaves to those financial leaders.

If my friend B does kill himself, rather than facing losing his home, I can't blame the Taliban. And so my two cents is that we need to concentrate on what is happening here, and quit spending the money and energy on wars on places outside our nation's borders.