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78. No, you are being detained. There is a legal difference.

Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:29 PM

Aug 2013

If they haul you away, in the back of a squad car, in handcuffs, you are being arrested. They have to tell you that you are under arrest and for what. If they stop you, the let you go, they detained you.
So you are applying for a job. One of the questions is "Have you ever been arrested." You answer "Yes"? Even though it was just a traffic stop? Good luck getting that job.

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It doesn't make any sense [View all] Andy823 Aug 2013 OP

So they know he had 'stolen documents?' leftstreet Aug 2013 #1

Because cops don't arrest everyone they can arrest, at the moment they have cause to. msanthrope Aug 2013 #3

Thanks for playing ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #13

So answer the question Andy823 Aug 2013 #20

Well Andy823 Aug 2013 #6

But he wasn't flying in the US leftstreet Aug 2013 #10

You missed the question Andy823 Aug 2013 #19

Maybe he didn't have anything incriminating leftstreet Aug 2013 #26

The question is Andy823 Aug 2013 #48

What makes you think he didn't volunteer? He's a grown man. deurbano Aug 2013 #60

How do you know documents were stolen? HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #61

Not that this will do any good, but Andy823 Aug 2013 #70

He was arrested. Any detention is an arrest (nt) Recursion Aug 2013 #23

Detained and released, no charges leftstreet Aug 2013 #28

Carrying a classified document isn't (generally) illegal Recursion Aug 2013 #30

Then there was no expectation of detention leftstreet Aug 2013 #33

Sure there is Recursion Aug 2013 #38

Well you just answered a question I've had about Greenwald breaking the law but never asked... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #59

If it's as simple as your description, yes Recursion Aug 2013 #64

No it is not. RC Aug 2013 #44

And if you are not free to go, you are arrested Recursion Aug 2013 #53

No, you are being detained. There is a legal difference. RC Aug 2013 #78

Would you send your spouse or loved one to do this? Andy823 Aug 2013 #29

Do what? Travel? leftstreet Aug 2013 #31

Cute Andy823 Aug 2013 #36

He. didn't. travel. to. the. US. leftstreet Aug 2013 #39

Oh come on Andy823 Aug 2013 #43

You win. Greenwald never loved Miranda!!!111111 leftstreet Aug 2013 #47

Grow up Andy823 Aug 2013 #50

Make me leftstreet Aug 2013 #51

I would not let my spouse... one_voice Aug 2013 #2

Exactly! Andy823 Aug 2013 #14

Exactly... one_voice Aug 2013 #21

DailyKos has an article that fills in the background bhikkhu Aug 2013 #4

Here's a fact ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #9

No argument there bhikkhu Aug 2013 #45

Neither are Greenwald's essays. baldguy Aug 2013 #80

Exposure. Attention. Etc. nt rrneck Aug 2013 #5

I am sorry I am not as on top of this story as others, but has it been established he had something hrmjustin Aug 2013 #7

He wasn't arrested. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #11

Did they take anything from him like the OP seems to say? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #16

Yes they did Andy823 Aug 2013 #22

Are they saying he had something he was not supposed to have? hrmjustin Aug 2013 #25

They haven't said yet Andy823 Aug 2013 #32

Well yes I am sure he had an idea something like this could have happened, but his lover hrmjustin Aug 2013 #41

Well then Andy823 Aug 2013 #52

Well the question becomes why did Her Majesty's Government detain him under a terrorist statue when hrmjustin Aug 2013 #55

Another question would be Andy823 Aug 2013 #75

It is possible they may have had an idea this may have happened and wanted it to, but hrmjustin Aug 2013 #76

Maybe he didn't? Maybe he was the decoy? notadmblnd Aug 2013 #8

It doesn't matter. He should have never been detained. boston bean Aug 2013 #12

Bull Andy823 Aug 2013 #17

How do you he wasn't setting them up? nt Demo_Chris Aug 2013 #15

Ho else could he trust? Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #18

Would you do it? Andy823 Aug 2013 #24

Gay rights aside - yes if she said yes Boom Sound 416 Aug 2013 #35

I thought that was a little strange also. Incitatus Aug 2013 #27

True Andy823 Aug 2013 #34

More things that don't make sense: ProSense Aug 2013 #37

Good questions Andy823 Aug 2013 #46

Posted this earlier...explains why Miranda was helping (paragraph 2) and snappyturtle Aug 2013 #40

I understand why he was helping Andy823 Aug 2013 #42

Well I would bet he knew it was risky business. From the article snappyturtle Aug 2013 #74

I don't believe he was carrying SHIT. I don't believe Greenwald IS that stupid. Do you? cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #49

No I don't think he is that stupid Andy823 Aug 2013 #54

I was at work all day so I'm a little vague on where the info came from that Miranda was "sent" cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #63

Could have been recipes for Caipirinhas and North Carolina Shrimp & Grits... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #56

If I were Greenwald I'd buy hundreds of thumb drives and put nothing but encrypted copies of cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #62

Exactly. Hell, pick up the tab... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #66

And just for giggles... cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #67

Just make sure it's the ol' red, white and blue. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #68

LOL! n/t cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #72

Martin Luther King, Jr., was said to choose to march in a town with a sherrif who would always Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #57

Maybe he was luring the Authoritarians into a trap and it worked? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #58

Nope, more like Andy823 Aug 2013 #73

So, he did lead them into a trap? Either that, because if was 'boosting his ego' (there's that sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #81

Probably because his spouse is not a child and is actively supporting Greenwald's work Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #65

Nah, more like Andy823 Aug 2013 #71

Only a terrorist would do such a thing. morningfog Aug 2013 #69

Good point. We should round up more of his family. Our liberties depend on it. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #77

I'm sure he and Miranda were aware of the dangers. They went about their business anyway, MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #79