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jberryhill

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54. Uh...

Mon Aug 19, 2013, 11:50 PM

Aug 2013

I run my own business and have been paying for private insurance for years. I don't think you quite grasp what the ACA did.

Your insurance policy - it doesn't matter where or how you bought it - must cover the minimum required conditions and treatments, must provide a fully paid annual checkup and other preventive car, cannot drop your children (if they are on it) until they are 26, and must spend 80% of revenue on treatment of medical conditions.

Most of "Obamacare" consists of a set of regulations and performance benchmarks that ALL health insurance policies must satisfy - no matter where you bought it.

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According to our doctor, there is a new law related to Obamacare - they must drug-test you [View all] Holly_Hobby Aug 2013 OP

I call major bullshit. babylonsister Aug 2013 #1

Yeah, ask the asshole to produce something printed kysrsoze Aug 2013 #2

Ohio. This is the only thing I've been able to find on it --- from NORML Holly_Hobby Aug 2013 #5

Screening is not the same as testing The empressof all Aug 2013 #16

screening most certainly is testing. magical thyme Aug 2013 #61

I understand your point The empressof all Aug 2013 #65

the point is that it is open to interpretation magical thyme Aug 2013 #76

Well You and I agree on a great deal The empressof all Aug 2013 #77

Also... Holly_Hobby Aug 2013 #8

I'd watch that PCP if i were you. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #12

Bullshit, that is very expensive. nt bemildred Aug 2013 #3

I'd find another doc. Hoyt Aug 2013 #4

Ask your doctor if it hurt much when she pulled that whopper out of her ass rustydog Aug 2013 #6

I just freaking spewed water all over the place. reflection Aug 2013 #60

I did a quick search on this and came up with nothing. arcane1 Aug 2013 #7

That is my take on it, too Warpy Aug 2013 #9

Users of e-cigs will also obviously test positive for nicotine. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2013 #41

People using gum or patches will test positive, too. nt. Mariana Aug 2013 #99

LOL, fucking Republican doctors. tridim Aug 2013 #10

That was so last century. RC Aug 2013 #31

Not in Arizona, it isn't: freshwest Aug 2013 #39

O, FGS. Tell her to turn off FOX. WinkyDink Aug 2013 #11

New Obamacare Wrinkle: A Way For Smokers to Avoid Paying a Penalty burnodo Aug 2013 #13

Sorry to break this to everyone, but it's actually NOT bullshit. Xithras Aug 2013 #14

Hilarious that right out of the box "it's a LIE!" then someone that actually knows facts, like you.. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #15

However, it's not required by "Obamacare" Lex Aug 2013 #80

So this is a way for health insurers to charge more money to test for illicit drug use? dkf Aug 2013 #18

If this is the case....It will be tested thoroughly in the courts. The empressof all Aug 2013 #19

And the courts will find nothing wrong with it. nt bananas Aug 2013 #34

Kick. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2013 #20

Internet HOAX! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #49

It's not required zipplewrath Aug 2013 #30

True. The government doesn't require it. It simply allowed insurance companies to require it. Xithras Aug 2013 #59

Our new policies will require something similar alarimer Aug 2013 #74

Some companies are having weigh ins zipplewrath Aug 2013 #75

Last time I went to my primary care physician LibertyLover Aug 2013 #82

Thanks - is coffee on the list? bananas Aug 2013 #32

Looks like people can simply get away by not using drugs 2 days before a blood test. Incitatus Aug 2013 #35

THC can stay in the blood a lot longer than that especially for medical marijuana patients who liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #68

how will this affect medical marijuana patients? liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #67

I think this is the answer to LWolf Aug 2013 #81

Gee, if only someone could have foreseen this kind of thing... Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #17

Internet Hoax! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #48

Wonder if those of us with private insurance will be required to do it, too? lynne Aug 2013 #21

Obamacare is not insurance Bradical79 Aug 2013 #24

Obama care IS insurance. RC Aug 2013 #33

No, it's not. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #83

What is it then, if it is not insurance? RC Aug 2013 #89

Really? jberryhill Aug 2013 #92

I know very well what Obamacare is and where it came from. RC Aug 2013 #96

You didn't get the memo, huh? lynne Aug 2013 #43

If it were Government insurance there would be a lot more happy Liberals but it is not. Bandit Aug 2013 #64

It certainly isn't insurance. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #84

Unfortunately, you are deeply misinformed jberryhill Aug 2013 #90

Oh, so cute. n/t tazkcmo Aug 2013 #53

Yes, I am. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #85

Good golly jberryhill Aug 2013 #29

Private meaning outside the premium and coverage confines and rules of the ACA - lynne Aug 2013 #45

Uh... jberryhill Aug 2013 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Bradical79 Aug 2013 #88

Apparently. Bradical79 Aug 2013 #87

It's pretty amazing to me jberryhill Aug 2013 #91

I don't know if it's Obamacare or not... FLyellowdog Aug 2013 #22

doc office policy, not law. my PCP wanted me to sign a contract that allowed for random drugs tests dionysus Aug 2013 #28

You should. Basically they are saying the do not trust you to tell them the truth. RC Aug 2013 #37

I don't recall where the Constitution guarantees FLyellowdog Aug 2013 #42

Reread your post 21 again. RC Aug 2013 #52

Unless I'm mistaken, the Constitution deals directly with our freedoms. FLyellowdog Aug 2013 #69

Those tests are useless and I'll tell you why: bunnies Aug 2013 #73

If only there wasn't a penalty. Because doctors should know about any pnwmom Aug 2013 #23

....and treat us like children unable to tell them what we take? snappyturtle Aug 2013 #27

I'm not too sure what this has to with Obama care Texasgal Aug 2013 #25

One doesn't 'apply for Obamacare.' elleng Aug 2013 #26

i have blood tests every 6 months because of the medications I am on.... chillfactor Aug 2013 #36

Ask her to show you the law/policy and Cerridwen Aug 2013 #38

It doesn't exist! It's a HOAX! nt rdharma Aug 2013 #47

This is what happens Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #40

+1 n/t area51 Aug 2013 #63

Another internet hoax! rdharma Aug 2013 #44

Just like the question of life after death, the one thing we know for certain is that Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #58

or not. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #70

Which state? cally Aug 2013 #46

How many lies is it possible to tell about the ACA? Lint Head Aug 2013 #50

Cough--bullshit---cough. MADem Aug 2013 #51

well this is a new internet hoax... madrchsod Aug 2013 #55

I have talked to several doctors wives that go to my gym doc03 Aug 2013 #56

Greed kills. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #71

The Golden Halo effect. (Does anybody even know about this stuff anymore?) Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #72

Partially true from my reading of the document in question pediatricmedic Aug 2013 #57

Of course, no surprise at all. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #62

My doctor said that all the doctors in the UK work for the government. KamaAina Aug 2013 #66

Having an MD after your name doesn't mean you are smart...You just are trained. The empressof all Aug 2013 #78

I realized this a few years ago Bradical79 Aug 2013 #95

But think about how much you saved jberryhill Aug 2013 #98

More scare-mongering from right-wing medical providers. Aristus Aug 2013 #79

I don't believe you. DirkGently Aug 2013 #86

There are some shockingly stupid doctors out there Bradical79 Aug 2013 #93

There is always that jberryhill Aug 2013 #94

You're right. I have no way of knowing. I amend to say DirkGently Aug 2013 #97