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177. So do you feel that the launch codes for the nuclear program need to be made public?

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:11 AM

Aug 2013

Isn't that the kind of transparency you expect from the "govt you pay for with your tax dollars" and that you are the boss of? Shouldn't they be making you aware of the location of all the secret bases and the "undisclosed location" and all the Undercover agents names and locations all over the world. Shouldn't you be informed of all of that and more?

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All in favor of detaining journalists or their significant others, raise your hands. [View all] WilliamPitt Aug 2013 OP

is there any more room under the bus...? mike_c Aug 2013 #1

We've got a whole fleet of buses now. LWolf Aug 2013 #273

If this were done under a Republican President........ neverforget Aug 2013 #2

They don't have Republicans in the U.K. pnwmom Aug 2013 #103

So they don't have conservatives there? neverforget Aug 2013 #108

They do. But they don't work under Obama. n/t pnwmom Aug 2013 #113

UK Conservatives are not even Republican-Lite. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #222

Yes, they have their reasons... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #155

Torys. tblue Aug 2013 #158

I know they have their own conservatives. But this wasn't "done under" pnwmom Aug 2013 #252

Not publicly anyway. former9thward Aug 2013 #267

They all march Why Syzygy Aug 2013 #317

The UK was so concerned about the leaked US documents, that they invoked a TERROR LAW! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #240

I didn't say it had nothing to do with us. But they have just as much reason as our govt. pnwmom Aug 2013 #251

Its totally different when its under a Republican President LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #107

heh. JackRiddler Aug 2013 #138

Lol! NealK Aug 2013 #204

Score! n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #216

Extra nice post! Enthusiast Aug 2013 #221

Brilliant! truebrit71 Aug 2013 #236

That's different! Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #241

I never thought I would ask for a link to a ProSense post hootinholler Aug 2013 #249

I have to give credit where credit is due LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #253

I think this is it... progressoid Aug 2013 #275

Thanks! hootinholler Aug 2013 #277

"I have many documents about England's espionage system" - G. Greenwald struggle4progress Aug 2013 #256

Nice one! Of course, that was then... AllyCat Aug 2013 #331

This bullshit was started by republicans and the RepubliDems are expanding it. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #114

Valerie Plame hfojvt Aug 2013 #153

Let's see. Cheney leaked info that outed an agent for political purposes. neverforget Aug 2013 #157

a bit of a warfle to compare this to Vietnam, isn't it? hfojvt Aug 2013 #179

drone murders count? gitmo/abu ghraib? occupations? The war-OF-terror is an awful mess,. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #242

most of those millions were killed in Iraq hfojvt Aug 2013 #310

Iraq was in the War-OF-Terror. They declared war on a tactic remember? Not one country all of THEM Civilization2 Aug 2013 #323

all in favor of free passes for significant others trafficking in stolen stuff, raise your hand uhnope Aug 2013 #3

OK, so you're hands are definitely UP for the OP. nt NorthCarolina Aug 2013 #6

So you are in favor of the detainment of journalists and their significant others. Marrah_G Aug 2013 #7

Or torture, or indefinite detention Demeter Aug 2013 #212

Journalists should simply accept anything christx30 Aug 2013 #314

What stolen stuff did he have? leftstreet Aug 2013 #10

He had documents that Snowden stole on his thumb drive, according to Greenwald uhnope Aug 2013 #34

How do we know they weren't LOLCATs? leftstreet Aug 2013 #36

LOL! I hope they were! deurbano Aug 2013 #88

Empires are known for that... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #167

I have it on the strictest confidence that Enthusiast Aug 2013 #223

Mr Greenwald never said that they were Snowden documents. If you read your paragraph Luminous Animal Aug 2013 #85

That makes it 'truth'�. railsback Aug 2013 #102

I agree with what you seem to be implying: delrem Aug 2013 #172

So which Greenwald lie do you believe? GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #215

That was source material provided to the Journalist, Greenwald, which means it was perfectly sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #99

leaked material may be how SOME journalists get stuff hfojvt Aug 2013 #311

Let's cut to the chase. delrem Aug 2013 #168

You will notice Mr Greenwald did not say the docs were from Snowden. Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #200

Summary execution then! Journalists are the new terrorists!! Off with their heads!!! No trials!!!! Civilization2 Aug 2013 #245

Uhm, that's not theft, its probably a violation of some state secret acts, but not theft... Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #297

same difference. Point is, getting detained for having that in yr possession is not surprising. nt uhnope Aug 2013 #298

Its not a "same difference", generally theft carries a lot less of a penalty... Humanist_Activist Aug 2013 #299

...warfle warfle... WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #11

The warflers seem to believe that those who make the laws are above the law. GliderGuider Aug 2013 #257

WTF is this shit? mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #16

You nailed it, right here... City Lights Aug 2013 #24

it's not that the president is a Dem Skittles Aug 2013 #131

nope. delrem Aug 2013 #174

I think you are misunderstanding Skittles Aug 2013 #187

Please explain what you mean, Skittles. This is a civil rights issue. It has nothing to do with chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #220

the Dems who are excusing these violations Skittles Aug 2013 #319

Oh, for sure! Thanks for clarifying! chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #320

whassup, chimpy? Skittles Aug 2013 #321

I hadn't thought of it that way. City Lights Aug 2013 #238

That's one hand up so far. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #26

There's also document "laundering" Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #62

Lol, I think we need a list. And from a random poster too. Someone should maybe hire sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #83

you all pick the best names bobduca Aug 2013 #30

How'd they know? Cerridwen Aug 2013 #40

reminds me of the longtime roommate of any trafficker getting detained. uhnope Aug 2013 #67

I imagine it does. Cerridwen Aug 2013 #208

Do you think Greenwald and/or Miranda are terrorists? morningfog Aug 2013 #43

do you think sneaking stolen stuff thru an airport should be okay? How about kiddie porn? uhnope Aug 2013 #54

Do you think they are terrorists? morningfog Aug 2013 #58

oh I get it. you're with us or you're with the terrorists, double reversed. uhnope Aug 2013 #65

Do you think they are terrorists? Should be an easy morningfog Aug 2013 #66

Have you stopped beating your boyfriend? Should be easy. Take a logic class uhnope Aug 2013 #74

Do you think they are terrorists? morningfog Aug 2013 #76

You failed logic. Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #244

Just answer the damned question. Do you think Miranda is a terrorist? eom ChisolmTrailDem Aug 2013 #264

Did you misplace your reply? Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #344

That's not at all what that is. It is a simple question. cui bono Aug 2013 #193

Not what was asked. Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #243

first you're sneaking stolen sturf thru the airport, before you know it, yer Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #206

Where is the proof of child pornagraphry? tnlefty Aug 2013 #87

Now you are trying to equate whistleblowing to kiddie porn? LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #110

And notice the repeated refusal to say it is not terrorism. morningfog Aug 2013 #120

And these people claim to be Democrats LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #126

They detained him under a terrorist statute tazkcmo Aug 2013 #165

Please tell me you are not really equating Snowden's leaks with kiddie porn. cui bono Aug 2013 #192

"Hell, It could have been HUMAN HEADS, for god's sake, a thumb drive full of HUMAN FREAKIN HEADS!" Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #205

when they come for your rights questionseverything Aug 2013 #246

is this the new meme? if you support the leaks, then you support kiddie porn? frylock Aug 2013 #272

Remember - Supreme Court - Pentagon papers - it is UK though so all different rules Valhallakey Aug 2013 #330

This message was self-deleted by its author frylock Aug 2013 #64

There are legal avenues to deal with such violations. morningfog Aug 2013 #82

You're missing that it's legal to persecute someone for revealing illegal spying. n/t Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #98

Put down the crack pipe. L0oniX Aug 2013 #117

Prove that tazkcmo Aug 2013 #159

prove it all night long uhnope Aug 2013 #178

Let's parse this quote once and for all for the reading & comprehension impaired. TM99 Aug 2013 #214

+1 nt Javaman Aug 2013 #269

Awesome! hueymahl Aug 2013 #274

That's ridiculous, dumb and illiterate. But I'll make you a bet uhnope Aug 2013 #278

I don't gamble with idiots. TM99 Aug 2013 #280

you're a very confused person but you're smart not to take a losing bet. uhnope Aug 2013 #291

Confused? TM99 Aug 2013 #316

Even if what you say is entirely true, that makes him a terrorist... how? cui bono Aug 2013 #191

+1 uponit7771 Aug 2013 #194

'Trafficking' means smuggling illegal items or people with intent so sell them Celefin Aug 2013 #207

Uhhhh, NOPE! hootinholler Aug 2013 #255

blindfolds and ear plugs are all the rage! nt Javaman Aug 2013 #268

There is a place on my ignore list for anyone who thinks it is okay Marrah_G Aug 2013 #4

There are a lot of people posting here lately go west young man Aug 2013 #97

I'd say there are also laundry_queen Aug 2013 #182

Either sleepers, bvar22 Aug 2013 #294

they'll stop defending this stuff in the beginning of 2017 Skittles Aug 2013 #101

Bingo! Marrah_G Aug 2013 #105

They'll just switch to the next President. RC Aug 2013 #115

no, they will not Skittles Aug 2013 #125

Oh, I'll be watching. RC Aug 2013 #127

I'll be keeping them on Ignore Skittles Aug 2013 #130

You got that right. RC Aug 2013 #150

Scary times. It shows there is no limit to what they will defend. morningfog Aug 2013 #121

Don't do it, please. It's easy to ignore them the old fashioned way, but not seeing the shit Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #148

I know they are here, I just choose not to read their crap Marrah_G Aug 2013 #151

Ms. Thug is a redhead, I have some notion. Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #162

I have hope that eventually the admins will get tired of it :) Marrah_G Aug 2013 #166

I doubt that, Marrah Demeter Aug 2013 #213

Mine too. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #217

Hee hee...K&R. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #5

A sure sign of authoritarianism is if you are defending this action quinnox Aug 2013 #8

They're not that hard to find... kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #9

No, they sure aren't hard to find, kenny... MrMickeysMom Aug 2013 #13

Here's some more hands up in Greece kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #14

Oh good... one_voice Aug 2013 #22

That would be just won't do HangOnKids Aug 2013 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Aug 2013 #232

I'm waiting for Attilla the Hun... Whisp Aug 2013 #202

Wait, so just because someone is a journalist, woolldog Aug 2013 #12

Just because someone's the president, mindwalker_i Aug 2013 #17

Explain how a Journalist is breaking the law by publishing material s/he received from a source? sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #27

So-called journalist Victor Lazslo was not merely accused but found guilty kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #46

Is this a reference to the film 'Casablanca'? - nt HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #133

yes. kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #175

He was detained under Title 7 of their version of the Patriot Act. tazkcmo Aug 2013 #173

Miranda was detained using a law explicitly passed to allow interviews of suspected terrorists. Maedhros Aug 2013 #284

They are just mystified why they are being called authoritarians. Nt. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #15

They don't even understand what the word means. dawg Aug 2013 #19

they also think that the word "liberal" means "not republican" frylock Aug 2013 #71

Don't forget about their dogs. rug Aug 2013 #18

Depends if they broke the law michigandem58 Aug 2013 #20

Explain how a journalist is breaking any law by using material provided to him/her by a Source. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #28

His cellphone, laptops and memory sticks were confiscated. michigandem58 Aug 2013 #31

Really? Why were they confiscated. Was he on a terrorist list? Did he commit a crime? Before sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #33

he had stolen documents. he isn't a member of the press. he's the boyfriend. uhnope Aug 2013 #38

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR tazkcmo Aug 2013 #176

+1 NealK Aug 2013 #210

Under the Terrorism Act of 2000, he doesn't have to be even be suspected of terrorism michigandem58 Aug 2013 #41

I'm not interested in those phony Bush/Cheney inspired fake laws. I am asking how a person sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #53

He was detained with good reason michigandem58 Aug 2013 #77

'Mr. Greenwald' is a Journalist. 'Deeply enmeshed' with a Journalist writing a news story, is sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #95

Ahaha A spoksman on the issue! Egnever Aug 2013 #136

What is your point? There was no crime, the UK has acknowledged they did what they did sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #184

If you defend a government's actions Maedhros Aug 2013 #290

Bush and Cheney influenced a law passed in another country before they were selected? n/t sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #104

Do you think Miranda might have been engaging in terrorism? morningfog Aug 2013 #69

And you're OK with that? East Coast Pirate Aug 2013 #79

Miranda is not a journalist. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #116

Is he a terrorist, in your opinion? morningfog Aug 2013 #122

He was doing nothing illegal. His partner is a journalist and he was assisting him. So again sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #171

Whether he is a journalist or not is irrelevant. Maedhros Aug 2013 #292

He is a potential threat to the authoritarian state and should be punished accordingly. rhett o rick Aug 2013 #301

I have seen not one shred of evidence of terrorism. morningfog Aug 2013 #44

We have a few here sadly. Journalism = Terrorism. It has since Bush began this 'war on terror'. sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #21

Flame bait post. longship Aug 2013 #23

well Will, as you can see there are a handful here who do believe in detaining journalist and don't Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #25

They are unfamiliar with the laws on Journalism and assume that when a journalist uses material sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #32

Laws of Journalism? sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #109

You never read the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution? You are unaware of sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #163

Oh, I'm aware of legal protections of journalists under the 1st Amendment sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #169

So what was the crime committed by Miranda? I would think that as a journalist you would sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #181

I'm not terribly familiar with British law but it is much less "free" than our law sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #186

We have no way of knowing if he had classified files or not. The nyt reporter inserted Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #201

Why are you keeping on that point? sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #226

Because it is a valid point, that's why. TM99 Aug 2013 #229

I'd think that if Greenwald felt he had been libeled by the Times in a doctored quote sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #230

I disagree that Greenwald would be TM99 Aug 2013 #233

NYT totally botched the acorn questionseverything Aug 2013 #248

The Guardian did not "immediately" turn over copies eilen Aug 2013 #328

Different situation sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #332

The Constitution does not give rights to specific classes of people, Maedhros Aug 2013 #295

Welcome to DU! Number23 Aug 2013 #333

I've been around for ages - I just never have anything to say n/t sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #334

Well, I hope the unbreakable wall of ignorance you've encountered in this thread Number23 Aug 2013 #335

Thanks! n/t sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #336

How do you feel about the Patriot Act? Do you think Pres Obama should use it to rhett o rick Aug 2013 #302

I actually despise the Patriot Act but don't see what it has to do with British law, sweetloukillbot Aug 2013 #305

funny that he's not a journalist and yeah let's have anybody traffic anything thru airports. Yay! uhnope Aug 2013 #59

you really don't believe in liberal western democracy, do you? Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #78

oh, another candidate for logic class. But liberal western democracy is rule of law uhnope Aug 2013 #180

liberal western democracy means a free, uninhibited and adversarial press - It means the right of Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #188

Good lord Egnever Aug 2013 #29

"warfle warfle derp" is more intelligent than any argument I have seen for the opposing ... dawg Aug 2013 #39

LOL so you think the first amendment gives you the right to posses stolen intelligence? Egnever Aug 2013 #42

Find another place to post then. morningfog Aug 2013 #47

Nah the entertainment value here is too high. Egnever Aug 2013 #48

Is that your call to make? Number23 Aug 2013 #106

Nope. Just a helpful suggestion. morningfog Aug 2013 #118

in that case, might i suggest that you follow your own suggestion? nt Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2013 #254

By all means, thank you. morningfog Aug 2013 #270

So, you think the government can just "classify" any and all information it deems inconvenient? dawg Aug 2013 #51

Then you better tell them to change the laws Egnever Aug 2013 #52

What laws? The secret ones? dawg Aug 2013 #60

Exactly right. And to see someone laughing about the demise of this experiment so joyfully... cui bono Aug 2013 #197

^^^ This righ here ^^^ WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #111

Of the people, by the people, for the people Celefin Aug 2013 #203

derp a derp progressoid Aug 2013 #318

They call themselves "Democrats", but they oppose the core values that Democrats should be upholding backscatter712 Aug 2013 #218

You will find plenty of people here to support such totalitarian tactics, I'm afraid. dawg Aug 2013 #35

I am just going to assume that everyone scolding me in this thread WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #37

Will ... dawg Aug 2013 #45

You know it's possible to hold two separate... one_voice Aug 2013 #49

Really. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #63

Anger issues... one_voice Aug 2013 #70

Attack the person and not the argument WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #73

I didn't attack you... one_voice Aug 2013 #84

....'as if I stole your last potato chip'. Whisp Aug 2013 #312

Makes Sense, no...? truebrit71 Aug 2013 #237

So do you feel that the launch codes for the nuclear program need to be made public? VanillaRhapsody Aug 2013 #177

Uh... no. Celefin Aug 2013 #209

PLONK. sibelian Aug 2013 #286

Ya, and it was a LOT of hands Hydra Aug 2013 #55

when the fa�ade of winning mattered more NuttyFluffers Aug 2013 #141

I used to think the term "authoritarian left" meant hardline communist types who unapologetically Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #72

OT somewhat but the hardline communists need civil liberties as much or more than anyone else, in HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #149

Forgive Them Will... They Haven't A Clue... WillyT Aug 2013 #50

Shame on you, Mr. Pitt michigandem58 Aug 2013 #56

Uh, no not raising my hand... tnlefty Aug 2013 #57

Question. Old and In the Way Aug 2013 #61

News flash.... HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #137

I believe Obama is the one who pushed to make all the BushCo illegal wiretapping "legal". cui bono Aug 2013 #199

if they are involved in criminal activity, then yes. Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #68

So detaining them under a terrorism law is cool with you? WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #75

I'd have to have way more information before I could make a case one way or the other Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #86

. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #91

Awesome! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #219

What about journalists who embarrass "our" people? DirkGently Aug 2013 #80

Arrest all the leakers and journalists!! felix_numinous Aug 2013 #81

Arrest means a formal charge kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #90

This reminds me of the way Bush and Cheney outed Valerie Plame to retaliate against Joseph Wilson HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #128

Now that the illustrious defender of our civil liberties and our security Dianne Feinstein has HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #119

Third way, fourth way felix_numinous Aug 2013 #134

Government approved journalists OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #164

39 Raised Hands? or is it just Recommends.. confusing..n/t KoKo Aug 2013 #89

Great edits. dkf Aug 2013 #92

Thanks. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #93

I agreed first time around but the warfle warfle is so perfect! dkf Aug 2013 #94

Stole it from South Park. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #96

Recommended. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #100

kick nt Zorra Aug 2013 #112

Brilliant post and rhetorical tour de force. And your words of HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #123

I've seen the enemy. He is us. blkmusclmachine Aug 2013 #124

Wait a sec,...does Hannity call himself a "journalist"? Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #129

. WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #132

That's O'Reilly.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #146

When people place Politicians and Political Parties ahead of ideals enigmatic Aug 2013 #135

I get your point but I think this goes beyond the mere worship of politicians HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #140

I'm not surprised by it, sadly. enigmatic Aug 2013 #144

People like that treat act like they're in a sports bar. Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #161

Well duh Will! Get your ass in the van! Rex Aug 2013 #139

Tonight they admitted it, they were joined at the hip nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #142

�News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising.� Lord Northcliffe Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #143

K&fookingR! whatchamacallit Aug 2013 #145

My hand is not raised. nt awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #147

It will be STUNNING when the next republican is in the WH and the response for Safetykitten Aug 2013 #152

And the PATRIOT Act is patriotic. joshcryer Aug 2013 #154

Gotta luv the transparency JEB Aug 2013 #160

The fascists at Scotland Yard seem to disagree. moondust Aug 2013 #170

I forgot, in fiction, it's a great plot device, in real life it's damn scary nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #183

No shit. I guess no one remembers the Pentagon Papers. Warren DeMontague Aug 2013 #185

I think we need to go back to Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #189

Oh my. I'd never seen this before: A legit public figure peeling back the PNAC onion. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #227

The second video is Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #234

Thank you so much!! You really should repost these in an OP! chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #304

LOL..... thanks but Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #308

You might be right - but it IS Wes Clark, after all. Legit, with lots of fans here. chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #322

Well I think her reasoning Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #324

Thanks, I was the Wes Clark video, not the second one. Will do so later tonight!! chimpymustgo Aug 2013 #325

I agree except for "getting to be a bad habit around here"... cui bono Aug 2013 #190

Hand raised. Donald Ian Rankin Aug 2013 #195

... Whisp Aug 2013 #196

All in favour of scammers like GG, please raise your IQs. n/t Whisp Aug 2013 #198

You must feel so clever! burnodo Aug 2013 #211

It depends on what evidence there is treestar Aug 2013 #224

Will, can you imagine Woodward and Bernstein sending their spouses to meet Mark Felt? msanthrope Aug 2013 #225

Factually speaking, Carl got divorced right during the story breaking and after married Nora Ephron Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #239

Scott Ritter is married and the father of twin teenage girls. As he was Will's msanthrope Aug 2013 #259

Very good questions, but you probably won't get a reply Whisp Aug 2013 #313

That is an amazing, irrelevant and totally distracting straw man you are developing there. hueymahl Aug 2013 #281

No--it's a question. What reputable journalist expects his spouse to mule stolen documents msanthrope Aug 2013 #282

Hey, guess what, this is not fiction, this is not a game. hueymahl Aug 2013 #288

What victim? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #289

Well played! TM99 Aug 2013 #285

Totally In Favor RobinA Aug 2013 #228

GG is "on the right". He is a Paul supporter. tridim Aug 2013 #231

You have successfully managed to completely, and entirely miss the point... truebrit71 Aug 2013 #235

Yes, people who run international scams usually don't have much of a point. tridim Aug 2013 #250

..and again...you miss the point of the OP truebrit71 Aug 2013 #261

I'm not going to K&R as the OP requests. tridim Aug 2013 #263

So it's okay to detain a "clown"s significant other if he's "being used"... truebrit71 Aug 2013 #266

by simply replying you are kicking the thread... Javaman Aug 2013 #271

Thank you, William. Jakes Progress Aug 2013 #247

How sad that we have a small, determined core of consistent pro-admin policy backers, who ARE... hlthe2b Aug 2013 #258

Truly stunned at the number of those here who have fallen for and enable W Bush's legacy. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #260

It's depressing to see any Democrat support such a thing. nt DLevine Aug 2013 #262

K&R Solly Mack Aug 2013 #265

Journalists should get a pass on possession of stolen property? Maybe I should start a blog and RB TexLa Aug 2013 #276

My Gawd, the stupidity on this is mind boggling! TM99 Aug 2013 #283

Amazing, isn't it? n/t hlthe2b Aug 2013 #287

So you can just take a police car and scream "Why are you chasing me? It's my property!" RB TexLa Aug 2013 #293

re: Getting things like what "stolen property" is... cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #300

Sigh TM99 Aug 2013 #315

I'll miss out on discussing something with you. Sorry, no way to care. RB TexLa Aug 2013 #326

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ THIS ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ bvar22 Aug 2013 #296

This shouldn't even need to be said here of all places. Matariki Aug 2013 #279

Shouldn't you define the reason for the detention before presenting such a black/white proposition? George II Aug 2013 #303

Tell me again why we had to know that Progressive dog Aug 2013 #306

K&R woo me with science Aug 2013 #307

K&R! TeamPooka Aug 2013 #309

During the Revolution sulphurdunn Aug 2013 #327

The question no longer, "Is it fascism yet?" but..."How long has it been fascism?" joeybee12 Aug 2013 #329

If the said "Journalist" was USING jazzimov Aug 2013 #337

Will, you have a new child, jazzimov Aug 2013 #338

That's the stupidest goddam comment in this entire thread WilliamPitt Aug 2013 #340

Do many journalists use their spouse/partner... SidDithers Aug 2013 #339

Dear WilliamPitt... AsahinaKimi Aug 2013 #341

but it WAS "terrorism under veil of journalism"! MisterP Aug 2013 #342

"that the administration wasn't hip to this jive"....... 4bucksagallon Aug 2013 #343