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In reply to the discussion: All in favor of detaining journalists or their significant others, raise your hands. [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)be even more interested in getting an answer to the question the whole world now seems to be asking.
I am NOT a journalist, but I have researched the story and I have found the answer to that question finally.
The answer is there was no crime. There is no law that was violated by someone travelling to pick up some source material for one journalist to deliver to another journalist..
How do we know this? Because we have confirmation of it from the perps themselves.
First he was released without charges after having being detained and threatened for 9 hours and after his possessions were stolen from him. He is back in a country that would not comply with any extradition requests from the US or the UK, due to their human rights records for one thing. So if they wanted him, they knew they better hold him then. But they didn't, because there was no crime.
Second, the UK, through a spokesperson who has a number instead of a name, told us that what was done to Miranda was done ONLY to intimidate his partner.
So,the UK was acting like a third world type dictatorship, which explains the outrageous treatment of an innocent person including the theft of his possessions.
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Now to your other point. I'm never impressed by a style we see so often on the Internet.
That is, putting words in other people's mouths in order to sound, well, I'm never sure what the intent is.
So, let's correct the words you attempted to put in mine and get to the facts.
I have seen no one, certainly not me, on this forum claim that Miranda was a journalist or that US law applied to other countries.
However, Britain and most other civilized nations DO have similar laws that protect innocent people from the kind of thing that happened in the UK to Miranda.
My point, and no one else seems to have had a problem understanding it, was that Greenwald is a journalist, that what he has done so far is perfectly legal and that his partner assisting him, is ALSO perfectly legal.
Greenwald is the target here, not Miranda. But the UK did one of the most vile things a country can do to an innocent person, they USED him to get to his partner.
I believe this imay be against International Law. To use family members to try to get to someone else.
Anyhow, there is no more need to speculate, we know why they did it so anyone who was trying to find some way to defend it by accusing Miranda of wrong-doing, can stop trying.
The UK has admitted why they did it and what they did was reprehensible, even worse than we thought.