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bemildred

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56. Contrived political cant.

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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 09:59 AM

Aug 2013

The founders didn't think much of parties. They were right.

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What do "left" and "right" mean to you? [View all] Recursion Aug 2013 OP

I'm pretty much of a mind that (to put it simply) LeftofObama Aug 2013 #1

So what about leftist authoritarianism, or rightist libertarianism? Recursion Aug 2013 #4

The origin of the term "left" is the French Revolution RainDog Aug 2013 #2

Right, we both are on the left so we think "reward the winners" is a bullshit sentiment Recursion Aug 2013 #3

He may point out a pov, but that pov is not supported by data RainDog Aug 2013 #6

Well, Millman isn't particularly interested in left or right as he calls them out here Recursion Aug 2013 #10

not really RainDog Aug 2013 #12

Which of his economic positions are you thinking of? Recursion Aug 2013 #15

Winners and losers RainDog Aug 2013 #18

He's talking about the character in "War & Peace" Recursion Aug 2013 #19

Women, apparently, are losers according to this metric RainDog Aug 2013 #22

Yes, that would be exactly his argument Recursion Aug 2013 #26

Victims are not losers RainDog Aug 2013 #29

Call it "victims" and "predators" then if you prefer Recursion Aug 2013 #38

the left sides with the general welfare RainDog Aug 2013 #50

I'm a disabled female... Jasana Aug 2013 #62

Our neolithic ancestors were more advanced than rightwingers RainDog Aug 2013 #65

Napoleon, in War and Peace, is Napoleon the historical figure RainDog Aug 2013 #27

If Napoleon had conquered Russia RainDog Aug 2013 #33

The bulk of his career has been on the Street as a trader in derivites. He cashed out 3 years ago Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #32

He's an incrementalist, his interest in in the status quo which serves him, his 'thinking' is faith Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #25

This is correct nil desperandum Aug 2013 #34

Deficits were created by cutting taxes on the wealthy RainDog Aug 2013 #36

Actually, it was not the Estates General Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #47

thanks for the correction RainDog Aug 2013 #51

I call bullshit on that article. cali Aug 2013 #5

It's not an article, it's a review of Tolstoy Recursion Aug 2013 #8

the author says it's his own definition RainDog Aug 2013 #11

So if you don't like the "winners/losers" dichotomy, what do you like? Recursion Aug 2013 #20

immature vs. mature RainDog Aug 2013 #23

I don't see how "winners" vs. "losers" is different from "1%" vs. "99%" Recursion Aug 2013 #28

99% is Democracy. 1% is oligarchy RainDog Aug 2013 #31

I think we're on the side of the downtrodden. The "losers" Recursion Aug 2013 #39

No. I'm on the side of justice, humanity and the general welfare RainDog Aug 2013 #45

+1 deutsey Aug 2013 #58

If you were to look at it in European political terms Fortinbras Armstrong Aug 2013 #49

exactly n/t RainDog Aug 2013 #53

To me, being liberal is mostly about treating people equally. LuvNewcastle Aug 2013 #7

Personally, I think political labels are claptrap. Skidmore Aug 2013 #9

yeah but that's false burnodo Aug 2013 #13

But we're pretty clearly left "relative to" the Republicans Recursion Aug 2013 #14

Does Noah Williams write for pay, or is this amateur time? Quantess Aug 2013 #16

Did you read the whole piece? It's an interesting take on Tolstoy Recursion Aug 2013 #17

No, I didn't. Quantess Aug 2013 #24

The author is a lifelong Wall Street trader who cashed out in 2010 to 'write' for American Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #35

The guy is pretty stupid, if you ask me. n/t RainDog Aug 2013 #37

I think you nailed it well with 'vapid'. I'd also add self serving to his own status and story. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #42

Aha, so he got his job through connections. Or nepotism. Quantess Aug 2013 #44

he's providing a hand job for narcissists n/t RainDog Aug 2013 #46

Note the similarities to Charlie 'I'm Winning' Sheen, unearned gigs, nepotism and cash... Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #48

In the most literal sense loyalsister Aug 2013 #21

"Not all conservatives are stupid people, but stupid people are groovedaddy Aug 2013 #30

Charlie Sheen and other spoiled brats have previously claimed that money = winning = everything. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #40

Very good example Recursion Aug 2013 #41

Can you explain what you think that means? Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #43

so, you're basically buying in to this frame? RainDog Aug 2013 #54

What on earth are you talking about? Recursion Aug 2013 #57

I think your pov is determined by rightwing ideology RainDog Aug 2013 #61

Jesus Christ *of course* we're losing Recursion Aug 2013 #63

you don't understand what I have said, apparently RainDog Aug 2013 #64

As I posted a few years ago, my basic distinction is: LeftishBrit Aug 2013 #52

Port and Starboard. MineralMan Aug 2013 #55

Contrived political cant. bemildred Aug 2013 #56

I orbit Salon.com in a black helicopter. KG Aug 2013 #59

I missed the fight on this, apparently RainDog Aug 2013 #66

fake labels to enable a 2 fake party stranglehold nt markiv Aug 2013 #60