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ProSense

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19. Yeah,

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:00 AM

Aug 2013

"In a democracy the people make the definitons which function under the law, not the AP 'style book'."

...so why are people trying to redefine the legal definition of a whistleblower?

The AP definition tracks with the actual legal definition.

"A whistle-blower is a person who exposes wrongdoing. It's not a person who simply asserts that what he has uncovered is illegal or immoral."

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The ACLU and others have been trying to redefine the term whistleblower to include Snowden. [View all] ProSense Aug 2013 OP

Snowden is a whistleblower and a hero. Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #1

The NSA Controversy is Ruining Pres. Obama earthside Aug 2013 #12

...said FAUX news uponit7771 Aug 2013 #75

There is a 'Liberal/MSNBC' bubble, too. earthside Aug 2013 #77

No he's not, and screw Snowden the Paulian supporters uponit7771 Aug 2013 #73

Dehumanization - for effective psyops Octafish Aug 2013 #2

They already admitted they wouldnt be making these posts if a republican was in office. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #13

Thanks for the heads-up! Octafish Aug 2013 #22

Wow! Just wow. Little Star Aug 2013 #29

I did. ProSense Aug 2013 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author R. Daneel Olivaw Aug 2013 #54

Wow, I hope that gets linked in every single one of these threads from now on. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #65

LOL! ProSense Aug 2013 #74

Snowden and Manning should each receive a Presidential Medal of Freedom and HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #3

I'm beginning to think your obliviousness to reality is some sort of logic blind spot. dkf Aug 2013 #4

Wait, ProSense Aug 2013 #5

This isn't hype. It's the state of our government officials and their failure to uphold their duty, dkf Aug 2013 #11

You ProSense Aug 2013 #16

more like rooted in loyalty to the President cali Aug 2013 #6

Is your comment "rooted in loyalty" to Snowden? ProSense Aug 2013 #8

Snowden is a handsome man Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #10

Uh, have no loyalty to Snowden. cali Aug 2013 #18

So why was your first response an attempt to deflect? ProSense Aug 2013 #24

oh yeah. and pro it's the sum total of your endless defense of everything that cali Aug 2013 #20

See this is your blind spot...we are concerned about our rights. dkf Aug 2013 #23

Maybe your "blind spot" is being self-righteous? ProSense Aug 2013 #27

And YOUR blind spot is that you continue to ignore what he provided us! cascadiance Aug 2013 #68

I am sorry but you did not make any such thing in your op. nt Mojorabbit Aug 2013 #40

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.....etc LOL!! bowens43 Aug 2013 #7

Well, thanks for proving that you have no point. LOL! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #9

In a democracy the people make the definitons which function under the law, not the AP 'style book'. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #14

Yeah, ProSense Aug 2013 #19

trashcanned. n/t PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #15

Have you ever considered the possibility that Snowden is merely a self serving douche tularetom Aug 2013 #17

+1 cali Aug 2013 #21

You agree that Snowden is a "a self serving douche"? n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #26

You continue to miss the point that what you say ISN'T the point! cascadiance Aug 2013 #70

No, ProSense Aug 2013 #25

You mean "When the President does it, that means that it is not illegal"? tularetom Aug 2013 #42

What on earth did you get that from my comment? ProSense Aug 2013 #46

Because that's the logical answer Hydra Aug 2013 #64

You imply, I infer tularetom Aug 2013 #69

"A lot of people in 2008 voted for Obama. I did not vote for him." BumRushDaShow Aug 2013 #28

Hasn't President Obama called him a whistle blower? 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #30

Jesus H. Christ, you never give up, do you? HERVEPA Aug 2013 #31

Can someone help me with this comment from the first excerpt hughee99 Aug 2013 #32

"asserts" ProSense Aug 2013 #35

Ah, so someone needs to be sure that what they are seeing is illegal hughee99 Aug 2013 #37

No, ProSense Aug 2013 #38

Well, as long as such a person can escalate their concerns to the guy hughee99 Aug 2013 #43

Yeah, ProSense Aug 2013 #44

Actually, I heard "old news" from the NSA defenders... hughee99 Aug 2013 #47

Did you notice this major caveat? GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #33

That has nothing to do with the point. ProSense Aug 2013 #36

Surely this wall of blue links, your 240th on the subject, will be the one to convince everyone! DesMoinesDem Aug 2013 #39

It wasn't written to convince anyone. ProSense Aug 2013 #41

"that'll help the debate about NSA domestic surveillance" - well, yes, it will muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #45

No, ProSense Aug 2013 #48

What has been made public about the middle of last century is not very relevant muriel_volestrangler Aug 2013 #50

What's ProSense Aug 2013 #53

More NONsense hobbit709 Aug 2013 #49

All I can say is that I envy the copy and paste skills. It must snappyturtle Aug 2013 #56

LOL! n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #60

Lord Whorfin has a message hobbit709 Aug 2013 #62

DU rec. but you're not going to convince 'em... SidDithers Aug 2013 #51

oh look! a fresh steaming pile of bullshit SwampG8r Aug 2013 #52

You ordered a "steaming pile of bullshit"? ProSense Aug 2013 #61

for my winter garden of course SwampG8r Aug 2013 #71

Whistleblower: an informant who exposes wrongdoing within an organization in the hope of stopping it Zorra Aug 2013 #55

Whistleblower: a leaker who reveals U.S. state secrets to other countries ProSense Aug 2013 #58

lol ~ nevermind nt Zorra Aug 2013 #63

Yeah, turns out I trust the ACLU, EFF, and other civil liberties groups more than I trust you. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #57

Do you ProSense Aug 2013 #66

No, I don't agree with CU, or their stance on the DA NuclearDem Aug 2013 #67

See, it's possible to disagree with the ACLU. n/t ProSense Aug 2013 #72

Given both yours and the ACLU's track record, I'm more inclined toward the latter. NuclearDem Aug 2013 #79

Snowden is a whistleblower. Vashta Nerada Aug 2013 #59

Faster than a speeding bullet... one_voice Aug 2013 #76

You'd think with all this effort, time and money spent on trying to vindicate Snowden railsback Aug 2013 #78