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19. this is the most important story in a while and shows why gov't and elite so freaked

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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 12:12 PM

Aug 2013

about Manning, Snowden, and their hopefully many future copycats.

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Did Manning Help AVERT WAR In Iran? [View all] Segami Aug 2013 OP

Perhaps in this way. Certainly in less direct ways. Scuba Aug 2013 #1

Except that the Obama administration doesn't want a war with Iran. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #2

An inconvenient truth! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #4

except Obama isn't going to be President forever limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #26

An inconvenient truth! villager Aug 2013 #29

At which point all of the Manning stuff will be forgotten nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #31

how can it be forgotten? It's already it the public domain. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #32

Policy is bigger than presidency Scootaloo Aug 2013 #37

Policy changes with the Presidency. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #38

You would think that, but no Scootaloo Aug 2013 #39

Do you think Gore would have invaded Iraq? nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #40

Invasion isn't policy Scootaloo Aug 2013 #41

Saddam was never our buddy. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #42

Oh boy. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #43

sigh. no. there was never going to be an attack on Iran cali Aug 2013 #3

We might consider it an act of war if another country did this to us limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #28

Very interesting. There was a time that McCain, Lieberman and snappyturtle Aug 2013 #5

The U.S. was very close Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #6

When were we 'very close' to a war with Iran? nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #7

Some believe that Stuxnet was an act of war. Maedhros Aug 2013 #24

I guess we'll just have to stir up shit someplace else to keep the money flowing JEB Aug 2013 #8

Don't guess it,...expect it! Segami Aug 2013 #9

We need an army of Mannings. JEB Aug 2013 #13

I love that Demotarian logic,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #10

Well, there's a big rock, and no Unicorns, right? RIGHT? Why do you hate Bradley Manning? nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #11

Thanks for illustraing my point Cryptoad Aug 2013 #14

I was being sarcastic. Sorry, I should have been clearer. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #15

I know Cryptoad Aug 2013 #18

I think Mr. Parry ought to forward this on the judge. I'm sure she will be persuaded. nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #12

That explains why the feds are cracking down so hard on whistle blowers. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #16

No - look at Obama's positions on Iran in the 2008 debates -- or even look back to Kerry's in 2004 karynnj Aug 2013 #17

the foreign policy differences between Dems and Republicans are mostly matters of style yurbud Aug 2013 #20

I think it is more than just style karynnj Aug 2013 #23

it is not entirely beyond public opinion, but the big pieces mostly are yurbud Aug 2013 #33

"Non-aggresive treaties" are 'profit-killers for many. Segami Aug 2013 #34

this is the most important story in a while and shows why gov't and elite so freaked yurbud Aug 2013 #19

this is the revolution: ending the ability of leaders to LIE us into war and spin us into policies yurbud Aug 2013 #21

Mannings revelations disturbed the plan for Iraq Hydra Aug 2013 #22

*snork* A majority of folk in the US have regarded the Iraq war as a mistake since Fall 2006 struggle4progress Aug 2013 #45

Possibly. If not under this President, maybe he helped avert a future war 10 or 20 years from now. limpyhobbler Aug 2013 #25

It is frequently held that images from Vietnam were a major factor in forcing us to Egalitarian Thug Aug 2013 #27

K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #30

I hope so, but the war profiteers are determined. They will still try and may still succeed. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Aug 2013 #36

Perry must be desperate for excuses to justify Manning's bizarre behavior, because this theory struggle4progress Aug 2013 #44

Obama might not start the hot war part, but like Bill Clinton before him, he won't pour cold water yurbud Aug 2013 #46