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In reply to the discussion: The ACLU and others have been trying to redefine the term whistleblower to include Snowden. [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)48. No,
"GCHQ is one of the major contractors of the NSA, along with Booz Allen Hamilton, being paid $150 million by the USA for espionage services. So information about the contractor's activities will further enlighten the debate about NSA domestic surveillance, especially since GCHQ is not constitutionally limited from any form of spying on Americans, and has long been suspected as doing this for the NSA, before 'laundering' the results to hide that it comes from spying on Americans, and passing it back to the NSA or other arms of the US government."
...that's about foreign surveillance. That has nothing to do with the FISA debate, and you're making assumptions.
Files released in June 2010
The files contain details of the recently avowed UKUSA Agreement - the top secret, post-war arrangement for sharing intelligence between the United States and the UK. Signed by representatives of the London Signals Intelligence Board and its American counterpart in March 1946, the UKUSA Agreement is without parallel in the Western intelligence world and formed the basis for co-operation between the two countries throughout the Cold War.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukusa/
The files contain details of the recently avowed UKUSA Agreement - the top secret, post-war arrangement for sharing intelligence between the United States and the UK. Signed by representatives of the London Signals Intelligence Board and its American counterpart in March 1946, the UKUSA Agreement is without parallel in the Western intelligence world and formed the basis for co-operation between the two countries throughout the Cold War.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ukusa/
UKUSA Agreement Release 1940-1956
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ukusa.shtml
This is the larger problem with Greenwald's reporting. It's leading to unrelated issues being conflated, and the facts about domestic surveillance are being obscured.
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The ACLU and others have been trying to redefine the term whistleblower to include Snowden. [View all]
ProSense
Aug 2013
OP
They already admitted they wouldnt be making these posts if a republican was in office.
Puzzledtraveller
Aug 2013
#13
Wow, I hope that gets linked in every single one of these threads from now on.
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#65
I'm beginning to think your obliviousness to reality is some sort of logic blind spot.
dkf
Aug 2013
#4
This isn't hype. It's the state of our government officials and their failure to uphold their duty,
dkf
Aug 2013
#11
In a democracy the people make the definitons which function under the law, not the AP 'style book'.
Bluenorthwest
Aug 2013
#14
Have you ever considered the possibility that Snowden is merely a self serving douche
tularetom
Aug 2013
#17
Surely this wall of blue links, your 240th on the subject, will be the one to convince everyone!
DesMoinesDem
Aug 2013
#39
"that'll help the debate about NSA domestic surveillance" - well, yes, it will
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#45
What has been made public about the middle of last century is not very relevant
muriel_volestrangler
Aug 2013
#50
Whistleblower: an informant who exposes wrongdoing within an organization in the hope of stopping it
Zorra
Aug 2013
#55
Yeah, turns out I trust the ACLU, EFF, and other civil liberties groups more than I trust you.
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#57
Given both yours and the ACLU's track record, I'm more inclined toward the latter.
NuclearDem
Aug 2013
#79
You'd think with all this effort, time and money spent on trying to vindicate Snowden
railsback
Aug 2013
#78