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149. This Is Still

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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 01:11 PM

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Who is coordinating this Internet message board defense of NSA? [View all] grasswire Aug 2013 OP

Whovever it is must be a pro. rug Aug 2013 #1

Haha, that was my first thought, too. City Lights Aug 2013 #3

+1 HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #5

makes sense westerebus Aug 2013 #9

Touche! CrispyQ Aug 2013 #210

Merci westerebus Aug 2013 #223

bigger and more skilled than a pro nt grasswire Aug 2013 #12

Several pros, maybe? Art_from_Ark Aug 2013 #56

noms de guerre villager Aug 2013 #64

Or maybe several pros posting under the same nom de plume? NealK Aug 2013 #66

That explains why certain posters are so prolific... n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #75

+1 n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #107

Indeed... truebrit71 Aug 2013 #135

And never seem to sleep. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #163

a bigger, more skilled pro with super powers and an evil laugh. uhnope Aug 2013 #173

I have had problems in the past with some government employees. Rain Mcloud Aug 2013 #214

I'm Doing It, You May Call Me "Dark Lord" Skraxx Aug 2013 #120

... TBF Aug 2013 #121

You're way off base, rug. Pro is smart and sincere and anyone who's paid attention blm Aug 2013 #252

Correct me if I'm wrong, were you not defending the admin on the overall NSA issue? Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #2

never grasswire Aug 2013 #8

I think I recall now, it was another grass name lol Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #14

actually, i thought that you were the one who had changed opinions..correct me if I'm wrong xiamiam Aug 2013 #187

I miss the friends feature for exactly that reason! CrispyQ Aug 2013 #212

The NSA, duh! HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #4

I think we have dedicated enthusiasts, not paid shills. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #6

yes, enthusiasts are coordinated, too grasswire Aug 2013 #10

Dedicated enthusiasts that can come up with a detailed response including articles within 3 minutes? AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #42

Indeed LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #54

The words you're looking for are "persona management software" backscatter712 Aug 2013 #72

I would like to see more than four sentences in a row OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #165

LOL! There's a Turing fail! backscatter712 Aug 2013 #167

"Maybe that will come in a software patch." CrispyQ Aug 2013 #213

+2 n/t Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #109

^^THIS^^ Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #122

What's funny is when the links are to their own posts. lark Aug 2013 #179

Had you paid attention in the past, you'd KNOW how wrong you are today. blm Aug 2013 #253

I think we have both. /nt Marr Aug 2013 #50

"dedicated enthusiasts" ...more like a group obsesive compulsive disorder. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #60

They're either obsessed, or they're doing this for a living. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #80

Best answer yet...........nt Enthusiast Aug 2013 #88

Occam's Razor for the most part enigmatic Aug 2013 #62

+3. And the collateral damage here is that DU becomes a less attractive place for real people... Smarmie Doofus Aug 2013 #110

+3, n/t RKP5637 Aug 2013 #112

The damage I see creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #168

It seems that the hallelujah choir on this thread... Blanks Aug 2013 #177

You made me smile big creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #198

yep Little Star Aug 2013 #113

++++++++++++++++ SaveOurDemocracy Aug 2013 #147

DURec for Post #62 by enigmatic bvar22 Aug 2013 #156

And I second that rec. zeemike Aug 2013 #161

And I second that second, or third it or something. RC Aug 2013 #208

I'll "3rd" that rec. nt LWolf Aug 2013 #220

They definitely have the same talking points AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #89

i think both questionseverything Aug 2013 #124

Warren, you have captured a general truth here and one we should all HardTimes99 Aug 2013 #133

That is the problem for many such dividing issues. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #172

I think we have both. n/t SaveOurDemocracy Aug 2013 #146

And, like clockwork Recursion Aug 2013 #7

I think the point was that the thought doesn't seem to be independent. Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #13

Because people are capable of reading, and take up arguments they agree with? Recursion Aug 2013 #17

You're absolutely right Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #36

Because groupthink never happens otherwise here. geek tragedy Aug 2013 #43

I saw three threads on Sunny within twenty minutes. rug Aug 2013 #16

There's this interesting technology called the World Wide Web Recursion Aug 2013 #18

There's also this interesting technology to control it, rug Aug 2013 #21

There's "technology to control" the Web? Recursion Aug 2013 #27

There are many tecnologies to help authorities to control the web. rug Aug 2013 #31

I'm well aware that there are ways for a country to shut down all of their Internet traffic Recursion Aug 2013 #33

The ability to destroy is the ability to control. rug Aug 2013 #35

In a Sun-Tzu sort of way, I suppose. We're kind of straying from the original point Recursion Aug 2013 #37

We are. Although it is refreshing to discuss rather than exchange talking points. rug Aug 2013 #40

"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." Maedhros Aug 2013 #181

Thanks for the citation. rug Aug 2013 #203

You're right. It could never happen LondonReign2 Aug 2013 #57

There are also these things called "talking points" TBF Aug 2013 #123

Then why do they all use the same talking points? People who are independent thinkers and sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #19

Same reason the "other side" does. The marketplace of ideas. Recursion Aug 2013 #20

I don't know. Why do you and a number of other Skidmore Aug 2013 #182

You were correct. When people talk about ISSUES that they agree on they will sound sabrina 1 Aug 2013 #185

Yes, because there is no greater example of independent thought Downtown Hound Aug 2013 #140

I've seen a lot of commentors on these blogs using the homophobic slur Gigi octoberlib Aug 2013 #11

yep, I saw that today too. nt grasswire Aug 2013 #15

Spandan, who is supposedly gay, uses it. WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2013 #46

I think his intent is to disrupt. nt octoberlib Aug 2013 #94

They think "I can get away with it if I use 'GG' instead of 'Gigi'". backscatter712 Aug 2013 #73

. Little Star Aug 2013 #114

Uh oh. I support most of Greenwald's stuff, & call him "GG" DirkGently Aug 2013 #176

Reverse vampires, saucer people and the Rand Corporation. Robb Aug 2013 #22

Did you know that Ellsberg was Rand Corporation? Think about THAT! nt msanthrope Aug 2013 #102

I think it's mostly just ordinary people who are just *very* invested in this administration. dawg Aug 2013 #23

we've rolled back degradations to our constitution before and we'll do it again Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #25

Not like this we haven't. dawg Aug 2013 #29

The last time there was a breach this profound was the civil war Warren Stupidity Aug 2013 #79

and the treasury, you left out the treasury. reusrename Aug 2013 #159

it would make your world a little more tidy if what you believed was true Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #24

I stopped opening mail from OFA back when O punted on health care kenny blankenship Aug 2013 #26

True story: There was a 4-2 jury decision cthulu2016 Aug 2013 #28

I'd be very interested in seeing this.. one_voice Aug 2013 #30

I'm not just talking DU grasswire Aug 2013 #32

I'm sorry I misunderstood... one_voice Aug 2013 #38

"several message boards"? Surely it'll just make your argument stronger if you tell us which ones? Turborama Aug 2013 #34

You're actually expecting proof? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #39

Yeah, that sort of thing. We're usually meticulous about backing up our claims here, aren't we? n/t Turborama Aug 2013 #63

I've seen them on Daily Kos. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #76

So, a poster on KOS says similar things that are said here and there's a huge conspiracy... Turborama Aug 2013 #115

You ask for a link, you get it, LWolf Aug 2013 #221

a link to one single solitary person. Whisp Aug 2013 #225

What do I win? LWolf Aug 2013 #250

Missed the plural in my request? 1 link isn't "several sites" and no, it isn't sufficient evidence Turborama Aug 2013 #237

. LWolf Aug 2013 #249

1st of all, you don't know me, so your continued ad hominems, as I said, are just absurd snark Turborama Aug 2013 #254

And 3rd: LWolf Aug 2013 #255

I said relying on 1 link to back up a claim that tax dollars are being used to spread propaganda Turborama Aug 2013 #256

And you are still tossing those rocks. LWolf Aug 2013 #257

I did make my point and let it go, until you jumped on me and accused me of never being satisified Turborama Aug 2013 #258

OMG LWolf Aug 2013 #259

I don't think Reggid is here. Mnpaul Aug 2013 #218

Different web sites respond to different disruption tactics. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #219

Skinner speaks for me: geek tragedy Aug 2013 #41

STASI!!11! Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #44

No, this is the HBGary conspiracy theory archetype geek tragedy Aug 2013 #45

As if the Greenwald / Snowden haters act in good faith... AZ Progressive Aug 2013 #48

Meh to them both. nt geek tragedy Aug 2013 #51

Thank you for reposting this davidpdx Aug 2013 #59

Skinner is obviously a paid shill pintobean Aug 2013 #71

Yes, this is obvious treestar Aug 2013 #85

Surprising lack of awareness for an administrator ... GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #97

Skinner is in a bad position Hydra Aug 2013 #125

Wants more than that zipplewrath Aug 2013 #144

Beat me to it. nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #126

Actually, I'm perfectly capable of arguing my point based on its own merits Downtown Hound Aug 2013 #142

This Is Still RobinA Aug 2013 #149

Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #170

Yes, because the truth is that no one cares geek tragedy Aug 2013 #236

plus conspiracy theories are prohibited in this forum also due to nonsense factor. nt. uhnope Aug 2013 #171

'betrays an utter lack of creativity;...... Whisp Aug 2013 #226

I'm almost tempted to autorec her posts because they piss off so many geek tragedy Aug 2013 #227

nerves of steel, she has and a titanium backbone. Whisp Aug 2013 #228

More importantly geek tragedy Aug 2013 #238

Which ProSense Caretha Aug 2013 #239

My favorite Bobbie Jo Aug 2013 #235

I am the one who knocks... alcibiades_mystery Aug 2013 #47

"I do not say that lightly..." msanthrope Aug 2013 #93

US Chamber of Commerce, the DNC, companies in the surveillance industry... Marr Aug 2013 #49

It's this dude named Phil. He's real good at computer stuff like that NightWatcher Aug 2013 #52

Dave's not here, man NoPasaran Aug 2013 #70

HaHaHaHa It's been a long mimi85 Aug 2013 #81

No I'm Dave! ismnotwasm Aug 2013 #143

I doubt anyone is coordinating anything. We have dedicated posters on both sides of this debate. hrmjustin Aug 2013 #53

So we are back to the paid shill meme? davidpdx Aug 2013 #55

Ask who started this NSA spying shit? Bush 1? ...Bush 2? ...and now the republiDems expand it. L0oniX Aug 2013 #58

Oh much farther than that nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #137

No doubt it has greatly expanded from Bush/911. So much for attacks on DU members... L0oniX Aug 2013 #150

We are far from hitting bottom nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #152

I am getting really bummed out about this and our future. n/t L0oniX Aug 2013 #154

I know nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #155

... L0oniX Aug 2013 #195

True. People haven't started disappearing yet. temporary311 Aug 2013 #158

Actually people are, just that Muslim-Americans after 911 nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #160

I'm sorry, but..... AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #61

Cool, now anyone who questions Greenwald is a "paid shill" TekGryphon Aug 2013 #65

The admins should be flattered to get the attention... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2013 #67

Yes they are and they travel in groups. Cleita Aug 2013 #68

If only Skinner would put those five on forced global ignore... n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #77

What's a forced global ignore? n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #92

My guess would be AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #96

That'd be my guess too... Violet_Crumble Aug 2013 #99

"Global Ignore" is the new rallying cry of some on this board who seem to have both msanthrope Aug 2013 #139

that's some weird shit, these people actually WANT something like this ? JI7 Aug 2013 #222

I Had Luck RobinA Aug 2013 #151

Someone's doing something. That much is clear. Fearless Aug 2013 #69

The propaganda mongering has been obvious for a long time. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #74

The homophobia, be it open or veiled, is evidence that they're not Democrats & should be banned. backscatter712 Aug 2013 #78

For those who are incredulous... ghostsdoexist Aug 2013 #82

Welcome to DU n/t hootinholler Aug 2013 #119

Good first post! Hydra Aug 2013 #129

good observations grasswire Aug 2013 #178

Sounds a lot like the system that the Government was bidding out in 2011 has been deployed KurtNYC Aug 2013 #194

Yes, and The Guardian was one of the papers that originally covered this story Ocelot Aug 2013 #216

Collusion, direction, and use of our tax dollars? Kolesar Aug 2013 #83

Having a hard time dealing with the fact everyone is not in lockstep treestar Aug 2013 #84

We are the collective. bravenak Aug 2013 #86

I would say the entire propaganda effort is tax payer funded. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #87

There is probably private companies and firms that offer this. Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #90

I don't get it...How does any level-headed person read Greenwald's work or listen to his interviews Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #91

But who cares? Maedhros Aug 2013 #186

Nothing else to really discuss until Greenwald's next series of stories come out... Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #189

For myself, I don't "worship" anybody or anything. Maedhros Aug 2013 #191

I haven't made a single false allegation Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #193

But it's irrelevant to the conversation. Maedhros Aug 2013 #202

The funny part is I started an NSA thread and it fell off the front like an anvil Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #248

Yes - the efforts to distract and derail are working (sadly). [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2013 #260

The "usual suspects" and their "useful idiots". Cerridwen Aug 2013 #95

Hello Cerridwen, it's been a while since I've seen you post. (I used to by Cryingshame) KittyWampus Aug 2013 #188

Not nearly so long as it's been since you were Cryingshame, I think. Cerridwen Aug 2013 #200

in a few hours they will be here. PowerToThePeople Aug 2013 #98

Here's another idea,someone on the internet sufrommich Aug 2013 #100

When a group does it in unison AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #104

There is no "group doing it in unison" sufrommich Aug 2013 #105

Sure there is AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #108

See post #41 nt stevenleser Aug 2013 #127

i have been here since 2003 scheming daemons Aug 2013 #134

Since 2002, and yea Snowden is traitor nolabels Aug 2013 #180

Paranoid of what? AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #242

there us a bigger group arguing in unison that GG is a hero scheming daemons Aug 2013 #132

What are their talking points? AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #243

When your 'support' of a politician or a movement AgingAmerican Aug 2013 #101

Perfectly Stated. bvar22 Aug 2013 #229

Maybe it's you Renew Deal Aug 2013 #103

LOL. Paranoia, self-destroyer. nt tridim Aug 2013 #106

LOL, catchy! n/t Turborama Aug 2013 #116

Who is coordinating attacking opposing groups as paid shills? Godhumor Aug 2013 #111

Its also possible people repeat what they read. creeksneakers2 Aug 2013 #199

The corporate politicans of the DC bubble Harmony Blue Aug 2013 #117

The two greatest defenders of the NSA are, in order, the NSA and the White House 1-Old-Man Aug 2013 #118

The butler did it! greatauntoftriplets Aug 2013 #128

The ROFL smiley is in on it Capt. Obvious Aug 2013 #130

i believe that Greenwald is an idiot and Miranda was a mule scheming daemons Aug 2013 #131

I wonder ... JoePhilly Aug 2013 #136

It's the homophobic trope troupe, a regular rotating company of volunteers. Bluenorthwest Aug 2013 #138

Kicking and reccing this, not because I think any of the defenders are paid, JoeyT Aug 2013 #141

My feeling is, some who post here profit from surveillance infrastructure or closeupready Aug 2013 #145

Photos of the hierarchal coordinated effort from the top down. Zorra Aug 2013 #148

Miss Scarlet, in the library HappyMe Aug 2013 #153

win the thread grantcart Aug 2013 #201

Scarlett: Great balls of fire! HICCUP! It's Rhett! sheshe2 Aug 2013 #204

You rang? rhett o rick Aug 2013 #205

HICCUP~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #206

Hi Back sheshe2 rhett o rick Aug 2013 #211

Wrong Scarlet. HappyMe Aug 2013 #207

LOL, I didn't have a Clue~ sheshe2 Aug 2013 #209

No regimented structure is really necessary. bvar22 Aug 2013 #157

Agreed, but what you seem to be describing is a Republican mindset Ocelot Aug 2013 #174

A couple of those are true jmowreader Aug 2013 #162

Perhaps a small, organized group of paid individuals with numerous profiles? Ocelot Aug 2013 #164

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what's happening here. n/t backscatter712 Aug 2013 #166

it would be naive to think that DU wouldn't be seen as a target nashville_brook Aug 2013 #183

Same talking points= felix_numinous Aug 2013 #169

I think you're getting paid to say that I'm getting paid. Flatulo Aug 2013 #175

Why don't you all Do some investigation into where the money is coming from ? JI7 Aug 2013 #184

What I find interesting and disturbing is the personal hatred directed toward Snowden et al. Maedhros Aug 2013 #190

Yes. I've only seen this king of visceral antagonism... grasswire Aug 2013 #231

I can draw some sort of parallel that gives me insight. Maedhros Aug 2013 #245

+10 RC Aug 2013 #246

Personally, I think it's because modern Democrats in large part have forgotten Maedhros Aug 2013 #261

well, they keep saying that Snowden and Assange are Koch dupes, so...it's the Koch brothers MisterP Aug 2013 #192

How do homophobic slurs and personal Progressive dog Aug 2013 #196

I am. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #197

TPTB are not stupid. CrispyQ Aug 2013 #215

Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Aug 2013 #217

The only coordination going on here Summer Hathaway Aug 2013 #224

Someone here called Miranda... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #230

no, not on DU grasswire Aug 2013 #232

Okay, good... awoke_in_2003 Aug 2013 #233

Miranda looks like a woman's name. RC Aug 2013 #247

I'd think many/most of them are homophobes stupidicus Aug 2013 #234

Ha. Doesn't look that coordinated to me. DirkGently Aug 2013 #240

Can anyone explain why this Conspiracy Theory thread gets the okay? uhnope Aug 2013 #241

Because Forum hosts don't think there's any such thing as a conspiracy theory Turborama Aug 2013 #244

Don't discount the possibility that these posters may be bots. Trillo Aug 2013 #251

This is so adorably quaint four year later.... Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #262