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WillyT

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Tue Aug 20, 2013, 04:02 PM Aug 2013

MUST READ: 'So The Innocent Have Nothing To Fear?' - GuardianUK [View all]

So the innocent have nothing to fear?
After David Miranda we now know where this leadsThe destructive power of state snooping is on display for all to see. The press must not yield to this intimidation

Simon Jenkins - The Guardian
Tuesday 20 August 2013 15.30 EDT

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You've had your fun: now we want the stuff back. With these words the British government embarked on the most bizarre act of state censorship of the internet age. In a Guardian basement, officials from GCHQ gazed with satisfaction on a pile of mangled hard drives like so many book burners sent by the Spanish Inquisition. They were unmoved by the fact that copies of the drives were lodged round the globe. They wanted their symbolic auto-da-fe. Had the Guardian refused this ritual they said they would have obtained a search and destroy order from a compliant British court.

Two great forces are now in fierce but unresolved contention. The material revealed by Edward Snowden through the Guardian and the Washington Post is of a wholly different order from WikiLeaks and other recent whistle-blowing incidents. It indicates not just that the modern state is gathering, storing and processing for its own ends electronic communication from around the world; far more serious, it reveals that this power has so corrupted those wielding it as to put them beyond effective democratic control. It was not the scope of NSA surveillance that led to Snowden's defection. It was hearing his boss lie to Congress about it for hours on end.

Last week in Washington, Congressional investigators discovered that the America's foreign intelligence surveillance court, a body set up specifically to oversee the NSA, had itself been defied by the agency "thousands of times". It was victim to "a culture of misinformation" as orders to destroy intercepts, emails and files were simply disregarded; an intelligence community that seems neither intelligent nor a community commanding a global empire that could suborn the world's largest corporations, draw up targets for drone assassination, blackmail US Muslims into becoming spies and haul passengers off planes.

Yet like all empires, this one has bred its own antibodies. The American (or Anglo-American?) surveillance industry has grown so big by exploiting laws to combat terrorism that it is as impossible to manage internally as it is to control externally. It cannot sustain its own security. Some two million people were reported to have had access to the WikiLeaks material disseminated by Bradley Manning from his Baghdad cell. Snowden himself was a mere employee of a subcontractor to the NSA, yet had full access to its data. The thousands, millions, billions of messages now being devoured daily by US data storage centres may be beyond the dreams of Space Odyssey's HAL 9000. But even HAL proved vulnerable to human morality. Manning and Snowden cannot have been the only US officials to have pondered blowing a whistle on data abuse. There must be hundreds more waiting in the wings – and always will be.

There is clearly a case for prior censorship of some matters of national security. A state secret once revealed cannot be later rectified by a mere denial. Yet the parliamentary and legal institutions for deciding these secrets are plainly no longer fit for purpose. They are treated by the services they supposedly supervise with falsehoods and contempt. In America, the constitution protects the press from pre-publication censorship, leaving those who reveal state secrets to the mercy of the courts and the judgment of public debate – hence the Putinesque treatment of Manning and Snowden. But at least Congress has put the US director of national intelligence, James Clapper, under severe pressure. Even President Barack Obama has welcomed the debate and accepted that the Patriot Act may need revision.

In Britain, there has been no such response...

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More: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/20/innocent-fear-david-miranda



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It was a must read. Another truth telling article. Thanks! k&r Little Star Aug 2013 #1
Bookmarking to read when I get home. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2013 #2
You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #23
Police State UKUSA Octafish Aug 2013 #3
International corporate repressive government JEB Aug 2013 #4
UKUSA is Five Eyes. Nothing to do with GB's internal laws. DevonRex Aug 2013 #17
The Guardian has to fear slacking sales so they make crap up about little Green Men looking through uponit7771 Aug 2013 #5
Good to see that somebody gets it. Finally. Somebody gets it. AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2013 #7
Oh good, a new slur: "Area 51 shit" 99th_Monkey Aug 2013 #8
I thought it was the 14th Amendment. think4yourself Aug 2013 #9
+1! Nice job smearing The Guardian, uponit7771 delrem Aug 2013 #12
Is this the same Area 51 shit we were told to disregard because Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2013 #16
Fearing for my hard drives! railsback Aug 2013 #6
The growing corporate-military, the rising police-state, revel the ending of democracy. Civilization2 Aug 2013 #10
K&R. JDPriestly Aug 2013 #11
a must read - must be kicked to the front page Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #13
The Legal Dept Cryptoad Aug 2013 #14
Those who attack the Guardian fail to appreciate the new theater that journalism is in, I think. ancianita Aug 2013 #15
knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #18
K&R blackspade Aug 2013 #19
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2013 #20
"Hi, guys! Just wanted to check in and let you know we've got tens of thousands of your national struggle4progress Aug 2013 #21
Morning Kick !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #22
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