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NuclearDem

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40. Ok, two points

Tue Aug 20, 2013, 05:25 PM

Aug 2013

1) The UK is our closest ally and philosophical/historical twin. This isn't the US forcing Western ideals on the Third World.

2) The UK specifically addressed the US when they planned to detain Miranda. We had every right and responsibility to tell them not to do it. This isn't American cultural imperialism.

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Rachel: "Letting our closest allies do it while we stand silent is the same thing as us doing it" [View all] markpkessinger Aug 2013 OP

Where ever we are..... daleanime Aug 2013 #1

Sometimes what we see is shocking polynomial Aug 2013 #2

Perhaps mimi85 Aug 2013 #3

Let him fly into this country Cryptoad Aug 2013 #18

Kick and rec - it was a tremendous segment. Cooley Hurd Aug 2013 #4

Saw it last night & agree it was a tremendous segment! Little Star Aug 2013 #6

Notice the Administration refuses to say whether the seized information morningfog Aug 2013 #5

Only Murdock newpapers are legit with legit journalist. which is why bonniebgood Aug 2013 #7

But we no longer have Fox having a monopoly of middle eastern owned media here... cascadiance Aug 2013 #8

Hear! Hear! another_liberal Aug 2013 #14

Bullshit treestar Aug 2013 #9

You need a laugh track here Bragi Aug 2013 #11

The Truth Cryptoad Aug 2013 #19

Journalism is now equal to "terrorism"? What next criticism of the corporate-military state?? Civilization2 Aug 2013 #20

I think she is right. n/t secondwind Aug 2013 #10

Tell them like it is! another_liberal Aug 2013 #12

Note the absence of the usual suspects Bragi Aug 2013 #13

Look upthread. It just now turned 8am on the east coast. Cerridwen Aug 2013 #15

Sorry Rachel, that is old America think, we are now in new amurka. MyNameGoesHere Aug 2013 #16

Oh me!!! Cryptoad Aug 2013 #17

Since when has Greenwald been charged with theft? n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #22

Never said he was,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #39

You said, he was "the 'partner' of a known thief" markpkessinger Aug 2013 #42

That be Greewald,,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #55

Greenwald has received stolen documents from a whistleblower . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #60

Sorry,,,,, Cryptoad Aug 2013 #61

Right -- SNOWDEN, not GREENWALD n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #62

You are a thief Cryptoad Aug 2013 #63

You might be guilty of receiving stolen goods . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #64

not much differences Cryptoad Aug 2013 #69

The "partner". Pretty transparent. The Link Aug 2013 #25

Of what? nt Cryptoad Aug 2013 #43

You are clearly a "liberal" and a "progressive" The Link Aug 2013 #65

Are you down to Cryptoad Aug 2013 #67

Just quoting...geez. The Link Aug 2013 #68

Quoting what? Cryptoad Aug 2013 #71

what the fuck is a "know thief",,,,,,,,????? DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2013 #26

That is called a typo Cryptoad Aug 2013 #46

What's with the square quotes around the word partner? markpkessinger Aug 2013 #29

Its a quote,,,,,, geez Cryptoad Aug 2013 #50

What's with the quotes around partner? NuclearDem Aug 2013 #31

just quoting,,,,,,geez nt Cryptoad Aug 2013 #53

Sadly, I've gotten bashed mercilessly in the past for making the exact same point Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #21

knr Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #23

Telling our closest allies what they can and can't do is called dictatorship. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #24

Lame. /nt Marr Aug 2013 #28

Right, except when everyone uses it to defend other countries, such as JaneyVee Aug 2013 #30

Lame. Marr Aug 2013 #33

But you agree that we are not the UK, right? JaneyVee Aug 2013 #36

You're asking me if I agree that the United States is not the United Kingdom? Marr Aug 2013 #38

Ok, two points NuclearDem Aug 2013 #40

Well said! n/t markpkessinger Aug 2013 #47

Good points. But the UK gave us a heads up as they were about to detain him. JaneyVee Aug 2013 #48

When did we conquer the UK? jeff47 Aug 2013 #27

I thought the US has no right to bully othercountries and tell them what to do? Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #32

Nobody has suggested the U.S. should have "bullied" the U.K. . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #37

So in this instance, it would have been OK to tell a sovereign country what to do.... Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #41

Are you saying the U.S. government can never voice an objection . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #45

Of course the US can voice an objection Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #56

I think people have a problem with the U.S. telling other countries what to do under threat of force markpkessinger Aug 2013 #70

that's when they think they're doing it. When they don't do it.. it's called Cha Aug 2013 #54

Bingo. n/t Cali_Democrat Aug 2013 #57

+1! nt sheshe2 Aug 2013 #66

I expect more nuanced reporting from Rachel n/t War Horse Aug 2013 #34

She is right. The government's actions are proving the claims being made about them. liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #35

So should we invade the UK? Rachel, your my girl...but not on this. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #44

that's quite a leap. Those are really the only two options? Either never criticize other liberal_at_heart Aug 2013 #49

No invasion required nor suggested in Rachel's segment . . . markpkessinger Aug 2013 #52

Under the bus with you!!!!! Rex Aug 2013 #51

Oh, and move over kids: we gotta make room for Rachel under this bus! DJ13 Aug 2013 #58

I see nothing wrong with letting Airstrip One handle this markiv Aug 2013 #59

K&R idwiyo Aug 2013 #72