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Ichingcarpenter

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2. Meanwhile.......
Wed Aug 21, 2013, 11:02 AM
Aug 2013

George W. Bush
George W. Bush was president when the U.S. invaded Iraq based on faulty intelligence, tortured terror prisoners and conducted extraordinary renditions around the world.

"Enhanced interrogation," a Bush administration euphemism for torture, was approved at the highest level. A "principals committee" composed of Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of State Colin Powell, CIA Director George Tenet and Attorney General John Ashcroft signed off on the methods.

"There are solid grounds to investigate Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Tenet for authorizing torture and war crimes," said Kenneth Roth, executive director of Human Rights Watch, when the group released a report called "Getting Away With Torture" in 2011.

Dick Cheney
As Bush's vice president, Cheney pushed the nation over to the "dark side," as he called it, in the war on terror.

The U.S. used extraordinary renditions to swoop up terror suspects and send them to repressive regimes in places like Syria and Libya for torture. Cheney was the key driver in producing the faulty intelligence that led the U.S. into war in Iraq. And he steadfastly defended the CIA's use of water-boarding and other torture tactics on U.S. prisoners.

Cheney "fears being tried as a war criminal," according to Colin Powell's former chief of staff Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, but he never has been.

Donald Rumsfeld
One of the planners of the Iraq War, Rumsfeld steadfastly maintained while Defense Secretary under Bush that U.S. soldiers did not have an obligation to stop torture being used by their Iraqi counterparts. He also approved of "stripping prisoners naked, hooding them, exposing prisoners to extremes of heat and cold, and slamming them up against walls" at Guantanamo.

While deployed to Iraq, Manning discovered that Iraqi soldiers had arrested members of a political group for producing a pamphlet called "Where Did the Money Go?" decrying corruption in the cabinet of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.

"‘i immediately took that information and *ran* to the officer to explain what was going on," Manning wrote in the chat logs. "he didn’t want to hear any of it … he told me to shut up and explain how we could assist the FPs in finding *MORE* detainees."

George Tenet and CIA torturers
Tenet was the CIA chief who told Bush that the case for war with Iraq was a "slam dunk." Under his watch, the CIA waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.

Further down the chain of command at the spy agency, lower-level officers have escaped prosecution for killing a prisoner in Iraq and one in Afghanistan in CIA custody. Attorney General Eric Holder in 2012 ruled out prosecuting anyone responsible for those deaths.

In sharp contrast, former CIA agent John Kiriakou is currently serving a 30-month sentence for revealing to reporters the names of interrogators involved in detainee abuse.

Abu Ghraib higher-ups
Although low-level soldiers like former Army Reserve Specialist Lynndie England were court-martialed for their role in detainee abuse at this notorious prison in Iraq, graphically illustrated in photos, the only officer prosecuted in the case had his conviction tossed out.

A 2009 Senate Armed Services Committee report found that the abuses at Abu Ghraib were not the result of a few unmonitored bad apples but rather the direct result of "enhanced interrogation" practices approved of by officials much higher up in the Bush administration.

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They got that right. MotherPetrie Aug 2013 #1
Meanwhile....... Ichingcarpenter Aug 2013 #2
Indeed. nt City Lights Aug 2013 #3
I was afraid to rec this post. Atman Aug 2013 #4
This was the largest.. one_voice Aug 2013 #5
One thing we do know... ljm2002 Aug 2013 #13
I bet most were classified "top secret", or maybe none of them. Crimes should remain buried. Dragonfli Aug 2013 #21
Did I say all this? one_voice Aug 2013 #33
No, it was directed at a rather prevalent and absurd group thought I have seen emerging. Dragonfli Aug 2013 #35
K&R Solly Mack Aug 2013 #6
It's the military justice system. Different animal Pretzel_Warrior Aug 2013 #7
Y'know what... RobertEarl Aug 2013 #15
Sadly, no consequences when you commit war crimes and push corporate interests abroad NuclearDem Aug 2013 #18
What did the Abu Ghraib-torturers get? 2-8 years? DetlefK Aug 2013 #8
Amnesty calls on President to commute Bradley Manning's sentence, investigate exposed abuses Catherina Aug 2013 #9
so true bigtree Aug 2013 #10
True words my friend. I wish he had processed Snowden's plea more thoughtfully Catherina Aug 2013 #12
We've had to call for a fourth bus Rex Aug 2013 #25
It's the 'murkin way. Commit murder go free. Expose murder go to prison. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2013 #11
k&r Puzzledtraveller Aug 2013 #14
Manning was not going to escape a long sentence, but ProSense Aug 2013 #16
Obama and the Dems committed an atrocity. OnyxCollie Aug 2013 #29
"Something is seriously wrong with our justice system..." Blue_Tires Aug 2013 #17
If there wasn't something wrong with our justice system LearningCurve Aug 2013 #20
Leaks to a foreign press? Isn't that a little different? nt kelliekat44 Aug 2013 #19
I agree with the ACLU nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #22
on this issue bigtree Aug 2013 #24
In general the legal system favors the powerful nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #26
of the people bigtree Aug 2013 #27
It has perished from the earth nadinbrzezinski Aug 2013 #28
agreed bigtree Aug 2013 #30
Until the laws apply equally to all Americans Rex Aug 2013 #23
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2013 #31
K&R woo me with science Aug 2013 #32
K&R We need lots more whistleblowers JimDandy Aug 2013 #34
+1000 malaise Aug 2013 #36
This is useless bullshizz. If the ACLU wanted to support Manning, they should have provided struggle4progress Aug 2013 #37
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