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marsis

(301 posts)
74. Well, it's been all over the tubes
Sat Feb 25, 2012, 01:36 PM
Feb 2012
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/15/chicago-most-corrupt-city_n_1278988.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0212/72961.html

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/02/14/chicago-called-most-corrupt-city-in-nation/

http://www.inquisitr.com/195190/chicago-named-most-corrupt-u-s-city-in-not-so-shocking-study/

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46408018/ns/local_news-peoria_il/t/report-chicago-most-corrupt-city-nation/

Not sure about your first question, maybe because he was/is a Chicago Democrat.

Yes we all see corruption everywhere, but Chicago has a special place in the annuls of history. Where do you think all those gansters from the 20-50's went(?). Let me help, they went into politics and we are suffering terribly in this state. Along with corruption we are rated about last or second to last in the US as far as fiscal responsibility and solvency.

Several Democrats in labor I've worked with (for the state) have dropped their precinct committeemen posts because of the way these thugs from Chicago govern. When I say they hate labor, I've experienced it and I mean it. They use labor, oh yes and even occasonally thow us a bone, much like the Republicans occasionally throw the religious zealots a bone. But, we are only voting fodder to them, they own us but don't like us and we have no other choices in the political world. I understand this is the same problem across the whole political spectrum. We continue to elect the 1%'ers, there is no other valid option.

Let me make an analogy. While growing up a person lives with horrible parents. They rent this child out for prostitution and to all manner of of evil things. But this child endures, they are his or her parents, they provide a home of sorts clothing and some food. What is the child to do, he has no place to go and knows no other life and the child's parents have constantly warned the child of repercussions if he/she were to go to the authirities. That child represents the residents of Illinois. The Democratic party is the closest we have to what we believe, we can't vote Republican and a vote for any other party is a wasted vote. So we go to the polls to vote against Republians, not necessarily for these Democrats.

I am just disgusted with all politicains at this point, the Repugs because they are crazy as loons, the Democrats becasue they continue to disappoint to the nth degree. Like I said, I just want a party that has MY back and Chicago Democrats like most other politicians do not. Yes both sides are corrupt in this state, Three Dems and one Rep governors have gone to prison, and one other Republican could have, that's like 80% of our Governors over the last thirty years! But I believe it is the standard of corruption in Chicago that have driven it. My problem in this state is just the way they govern and what they do against us, better than Republicans but.........

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Thank you Senator Harkin. rurallib Feb 2012 #1
Thanking him for right-wing talking points? TheWraith Feb 2012 #22
So how are we ever going to start fully funding social security again? Yupster Feb 2012 #24
Social Security is fully funded RIGHT NOW. TheWraith Feb 2012 #26
It's now being funded out of general government revenues, nearly 100 billion under the latest deal Better Believe It Feb 2012 #28
Please tell that to the SS Trustees former9thward Feb 2012 #38
Under the bus with Harkin! He pushing right-wing talking points! Thanks for the info! Better Believe It Feb 2012 #29
It's not like the President has a history of MannyGoldstein Feb 2012 #2
Everything is on the table. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #4
I agree with Senator Harkin. Luminous Animal Feb 2012 #3
Presidents have been using SS trust money all my life and I am 70. nanabugg Feb 2012 #20
I agree with the Senator. Someone in the Senate needed to speak out on this. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #5
The payroll tax cut was a very bad idea from the git-go RC Feb 2012 #6
Harkin is right, sadly. EFerrari Feb 2012 #7
Agree with Senator Harkin on this one. nt TBF Feb 2012 #8
a message from the democratic wing of the democratic party lol nt msongs Feb 2012 #9
Thank you, Senator Harkin! woo me with science Feb 2012 #10
Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) for President! AnotherMcIntosh Feb 2012 #11
It was only a matter of time. treestar Feb 2012 #40
I agree a hundred percent. nt Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #12
Harkin is definitely one of the reasons I'm proud to say I'm from Iowa. bullwinkle428 Feb 2012 #13
As I ProSense Feb 2012 #14
You hope! n/t leeroysphitz Feb 2012 #36
The Social Security Trustees disagree with you. former9thward Feb 2012 #37
I don't think you're going to convince this one with facts... progress2k12nbynd Feb 2012 #42
ProSense, I have a sincere question... progress2k12nbynd Feb 2012 #41
How long has it been since a PENNY has fallen through the slot on the top of the SS piggy bank? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #67
I stand with Senator Tom Harkin! bvar22 Feb 2012 #15
Yes, you're 100% correct Bryn Feb 2012 #21
Thank you for making sense, bvar. Kaleko Feb 2012 #66
Obama, marsis Feb 2012 #16
What does that mean? Son of Gob Feb 2012 #18
Only 84 posts. That's your answer. Sarah Palin indeed! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #54
Since you made the effort you might marsis Feb 2012 #70
Good luck with that, but why post on *DEMOCRATIC* Underground? Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #71
Like I said marsis Feb 2012 #72
How could someone who worked for Chicago Democrats conflate Obama with Chicago Democrats? ieoeja Feb 2012 #73
Well, it's been all over the tubes marsis Feb 2012 #74
Again, Chicago is the most investigated city in the nation. ieoeja Feb 2012 #75
"With this bill, we can no longer say that Social Security doesn't contribute to the deficit" Better Believe It Feb 2012 #17
I'm embarrassed that it's being proposed by a Democratic president and a Democratic vice president Rugnuts Feb 2012 #43
That's right. It's never happened before .... using general tax revenues to fund SS benefits. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #49
The poster got PPRed, most likely for passing off wingnut lies as fact Major Nikon Feb 2012 #55
You should be embarrassed for thinking non-wingnuts will be stupid enough to believe this BS Major Nikon Feb 2012 #57
Oh, Harkin didn't get his pony. progressoid Feb 2012 #19
heheheh. SammyWinstonJack Feb 2012 #32
Never did I imagine a Democratic president would be the beginning the unraveling of Social Security. unkachuck Feb 2012 #23
But Obama has stolen an issue from the Republicans by starting the unraveling! Go team! Karmadillo Feb 2012 #25
LOL. Bonobo Feb 2012 #27
Senator Reid talked Senator Harkin out of a payroll tax filibuster Better Believe It Feb 2012 #30
this was a bad idea from the get go paulk Feb 2012 #31
The repugs are good with it too, not one peep bahrbearian Feb 2012 #33
The ProSense Feb 2012 #34
The Majority of the Repugs voted Yea 146 - 91 NO bahrbearian Feb 2012 #39
The majority of ProSense Feb 2012 #44
If the repugs are in favor of something it can't be good. bahrbearian Feb 2012 #46
Can you spell "collusion" woo me with science Feb 2012 #63
I trust Harkin more than I trust Obama. limpyhobbler Feb 2012 #35
HOGWASH! It's the calendar that turned ProgressiveEconomist Feb 2012 #45
"Senator Harkin seems not even to understand what the Trust Fund IS!" and you do. Of course. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #50
This is exactly correct Major Nikon Feb 2012 #58
And another manufactured outrage widget hits the shop room floor!!! JoePhilly Feb 2012 #47
Right. What does Senator Harkin know anyway? Better Believe It Feb 2012 #51
In this case, apparently little. JoePhilly Feb 2012 #52
How many days has it been since the last PENNY fell into the SS piggy bank? cherokeeprogressive Feb 2012 #68
Did any of you Obama haters wonder why Harkin is the only one claiming this? maximusveritas Feb 2012 #48
So why are Senators Harkin, Sanders and other liberals who voted against the bill crazy ..... Better Believe It Feb 2012 #53
At best they are simply grandstanding on a moot point Major Nikon Feb 2012 #56
Under the bus with Senators Sanders and Harkin for being anti-Obama grandstanders! Sure. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #59
If you don't understand these concepts, why not simply say so? Major Nikon Feb 2012 #60
Senator Harkin is the only one saying this???? You need to do some basic research. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #61
So why are you throwing so many progressive democrats "under the bus"??? Major Nikon Feb 2012 #62
23 members of the "Congressional Progressive Caucus" and its only Senate member voted against it. Better Believe It Feb 2012 #64
I told you why they voted against it Major Nikon Feb 2012 #65
+1 n/t FSogol Feb 2012 #69
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